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A great example of what you outline there is Channel 4 on-line. They have taken the time to promote a number of series by a curator called Walter Presents. They are crime/drama programs from other countries with english subtitles. They can be reached through All4 on SmartTV, Web and iThings applications.

Over christmas we had hours watching this prior to anything on the Sky or DVB channels because of the quality of the programming.

I just get hacked off paying the TV Licence fee. I am sad to say it needs to change. Let the BBC go to advertisment or other funding.


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Internet TV is great.

I don't know how it works with the BBC but here in Italy we pay a TV licence fee and RAI, the equivalent of the BBC, has nearly as much advertising as the commercial stations. At the moment I am working my way through the Miss Fisher series on Rai Play. Fantastic and no advertising. It is a bit weird because the same thing applies to RAI Replay: a few hours after something has gone to air you can watch it publicity free on Replay. It is almost worth watching all the programs a day later.

Movies on Replay are particularly good because when they go to air they always finish late. With Replay not only do you save the time that advertising would use but you can start it a bit earlier and not have to stay up late.


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I last had a TV in 1976, don't miss it at all. The only downside is the constant barrage of of obnoxious letters demanding that I get a TV licence or end up in court.
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Last year I cancelled the SkyTV contract at our weekend home when they left us without the bundled broadband service over Xmas and New Year. Guess what - we didn't miss it. So have just responded to a 'price increase' letter by cancelling SkyTV at the main home too. I wonder what this means for the SkyTV business model if I am typical of their demographic?

I signed up 15 years ago - music channels for me and Disney/Nickelodeon for the kids. Now, I watch little TV and the kids stream Netflix/Amazon. So if the next generation of kids can access their own content online from a young age, and there are many better ways to access music, who exactly needs SkyTV other than Sports addicts or people with the time to binge watch box sets?


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Originally Posted By IvorMog
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Howard, like me, will very likely be extremely reluctant to fit a broad band amplifier - they tend to amplify all sorts of other signals not in the TV and vhf fm radio broadcast bands.


So what effect would that have on anything else in the house?


I guess Graham is referring to me being a radio ham, and if the amplifier is that broad a band, it could feed back my trnsmissions into the TV. But in reality its no problem because I rarely use tha ham radio.

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Thank you all for your efforts to help. I will investigate a better terrestrial aerial as a simple solution to the TVs in other rooms.

I cant bring myself to junk the current large lounge TV whilst its working perfectly. As it happens, its two foot away from the incoming internet socket and we have a download speed of 39mb/s which I believe should be OK for TV. So the question is what sort of box do I put beteween the router and the current TV to allow me to watch programs off the internet. Do I really need a recording system for this - I guess I do because when I watch internet TV on the PC I download first and then watch.

I will buy a Humax box as suggested. Incidentally, does it have a program guide so you can set it up to record a series?

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Originally Posted By howard
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Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Howard, like me, will very likely be extremely reluctant to fit a broad band amplifier - they tend to amplify all sorts of other signals not in the TV and vhf fm radio broadcast bands.


So what effect would that have on anything else in the house?


I guess Graham is referring to me being a radio ham, and if the amplifier is that broad a band, it could feed back my trnsmissions into the TV. But in reality its no problem because I rarely use tha ham radio.

Ivor found me at Curborough today, so I have given a direct verbal answer to the question.
Of course it's not just in your own house - but neighbours may well fit such things and then complain of interference, when the problem lies in their own installation. Not just amateur radio, but potentially any transmissions outside of the vhf fm / tv bands.
Good to put a face to another TM member thumbs smile


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Originally Posted By howard

I cant bring myself to junk the current large lounge TV whilst its working perfectly. As it happens, its two foot away from the incoming internet socket and we have a download speed of 39mb/s which I believe should be OK for TV. So the question is what sort of box do I put beteween the router and the current TV to allow me to watch programs off the internet.


You don't need to record anything. Everything you want is already stored, it's the internet.

Without seeing exactly what equipment you have, it's hard to give hard and fast advice - but here goes....

It doesn't matter how close your TV is to the internet socket, this will be via your home wifi. Take a look at Amazon Firestick - streaming TV from the internet. A small gadget plugs into the back of your TV and also a mains plug. This gadget picks up your home wifi - and voila, streaming TV.

Apple TV is another... Google Chromecast yet another...and Roku.... there are quite a few. They will all comprise of a 'stick' which goes in the back of the TV which hooks up to the internet by connecting to your router.

Just look up 'streaming TV' and you'll find it all.

You can then chuck your satellite dish and/or aerial and be on the web. Hi def YouTube stuff too of course - all on your TV.


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Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Originally Posted By howard
Originally Posted By IvorMog
Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Howard, like me, will very likely be extremely reluctant to fit a broad band amplifier - they tend to amplify all sorts of other signals not in the TV and vhf fm radio broadcast bands.


So what effect would that have on anything else in the house?


I guess Graham is referring to me being a radio ham, and if the amplifier is that broad a band, it could feed back my trnsmissions into the TV. But in reality its no problem because I rarely use tha ham radio.



Ivor found me at Curborough today, so I have given a direct verbal answer to the question.
Of course it's not just in your own house - but neighbours may well fit such things and then complain of interference, when the problem lies in their own installation. Not just amateur radio, but potentially any transmissions outside of the vhf fm / tv bands.
Good to put a face to another TM member thumbs smile


Thanks for the explanation at Curborough yesterday Graham.

I look forward to getting to know other TM'ers in the flesh during the various events this year.


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Highly recommend Amazon's stick or box - they work a treat.

+ if anybody else is using the internet while you're watching TV (& a must if you're with Virgin) then it's worth setting the modem into er modem mode - and putting a router in front of it.

The box your broadband provider gave you does two things - it's a modem & a router.

The chips in the boxes that your broadband provider gives you are unlikely to be the most powerful thing out there. In particular, the Virgin chip on more recent boxes can overload itself, stall, and go into a maintenance routine to restore your service. Meanwhile, your tv programme hangs.

You'll find that your broadband is faster.
I used this setup when I had two gaming teenagers & 2.5mb broadband.

Glad to say the teenagers are gone, and I now have 320mb :-)

Will

ps For what it's worth, I send t'internet from router to tv through the electricity sockets, and then a wired connection to an Amazon box.

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