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The link you've posted is the definitive explanation and is generated from the original link.
The first page of original link could be worded differently.
My interpretation is that it only applies to vehicles where the exact date of manufacture is unknown i.e. such vehicles will still require an MOT.
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There is so much to this directive that the simplest way out is to get an MOT, after all what's £50.00 in the great scheme of things and if you use a garage with real mechanics ( or better still a Morgan dealer) you get the knowledge that your car is safe.
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In practice, the check for MoT is computer based and done at the time of paying for road tax or when plod radio in. Likely therefore that it would be implemented simply as a 40 year rule with interested parties left to quibble with the DVLA as happened with the road tax emeption. I cant see DVLA officials knowing the detailed history of the trad or of other makes affected.
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It will be interesting for Morgans due to the longevity of design features coupled with engine variations and emissions requirements. I wonder if DVLA will simply use the first date of registration for a car to trigger their database. That, at least, would form a basic 40 year criteria with some additions added for engine swops in particular to link with Tax requirements? It could get complex and frustrating! MOT = safety Tax = revenue/emissions
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The above link suggests that vehicles built between January 1960 and January 1977 need an MOT. https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/sy...ge-guidance.pdf However this link says that vehicles over 40 year old will be exempt from MOT and the owner will claim exemption when renewing vehicle tax. It's all as clear as mud! Both links are correct, the first is correct until the latter comes into force on 20 May 2018
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This topic made me sit back and think for a spell.
As my 1967 Morgan was one of the last (old phase) plus 4's and also one of the very last DHC's produced, I suppose it could be claimed that this type is NOT a vehicle still in current production and will therefore be exempt from testing Post 20th May
I have to say at this point, that I am pro MOT for "Historic" vehicles although perhaps it is time to for a new test to take account of the "Tec-spec" of the older cars
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This seems a very curious stipulation, I'm struggling to understand the logic of it. If it has been decided that vehicles over forty years old won't require testing, what difference does it make if the model is still in production?
In fact surely the opposite is true, a forty year old design still being made must surely have been very durable in the first place. I can't believe that a 1978 4/4 is more in need of testing than, say, a 1978 Lancia Beta!
Looks to me like something the MSCC should be pursuing.
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A 1978 4/4 isn't the same car as a 2018 4/4.
It might have the same name but you would struggle to interchange any parts.
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