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by Joske Vermeule, September 1
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Jun 14th, 2026
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Subaru/Toyota BRZ/GT86. Or is it because its a FHC?
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MX5 would be my choice. Great dynamics, super reliable and relatively inexpensive to service.
Bud
4/4 "Stanley"
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No love for the FIAT equivalent in the room?
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I think it looks terrific
SFG
2012 4/4 Sport
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No love for the FIAT equivalent in the room? Rather like it!
Jays
Former Morgan owner. Gone but hopefully not forgotten!
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That new Fiat has a lot of style that is missing from the MX5 to my eyes. They look lovely in the metal I saw one last autumn and I would.
The GT86 has shot it self in the foot with reliability issues.
I'm not a Subaru fan at all after the 555 era I think they are fugly.
2009 4/4 Sport Henrietta
1999 Indigo Blue +8
2009 4/4 Sport Green prev
1993 Con Green +8 prev
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I've seen one and I would have one.......
DaveW
'05 Red Roadster S1
'16 Yellow (Not the only) Narrow AR GDI Plus 4
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The Fiat is very nice, but you can pick up MX5s for a heck of a lot less money.
Tim H.
1986 4/4 VVTi Sport, 2002 LR Defender, 2022 Mini Cooper SE
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As I just mentioned in another thread, the best thing about the Fiat is that it is produced in Hiroshima. I saw her on the assembly line. Only the machine is delivered from Italy, I was told last week on a factory tour at the Mazda plant.
From this point of view, one can assume very good processing of the Spider, Personally, I like the MX5 better, but that's a matter of taste. And I like the naturally aspirated engine of the Mazda, (which would also suit a 4/4).
'14 4/4 graphite grey
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The MX5 MK4 or ND has a very poor underseal job, I have undersealed two for friends and I have been under the Fiat in a Fiat garage and it is just as bad.
Fiat did not purchase the Mk4 gearbox off Mazda but they purchased a version of the MK3 gearbox from Mazda. To mate with their Turbo engines.
The MK4 MX5 got a pretty iffy reliability write up on What Car this month.
Most cars have been back to the dealer due to wear issues on the hood which on the Mk1 was considered to be years ahead of other cars.
The driver’s door seal with the driver’s window tends to need replaced. Lots of the leather seats have really loose leather on the area you sit on and the do not look good again people taking them back to have that sorted. Mazda not always picking up the bills.
A recent issue with the cruise control draining the battery sorted with a software update.
The Mk4 now on version 4 of the gearbox, early failures with 2nd and 3rd gear stripping teeth, then problems with 1st gear selection.
Mazda sent out a worldwide technical bulletin which advised the VIN numbers of the cars that may be affected including the specific VIN numbers for the UK cars.
Mazda UK advised owners that as the technical bulletin came from the Internet, they could not advise if it was genuine. Not that it was false. Not the best of customer services.
Many owners now refusing gearbox replacements where Mazda use 2nd generation boxes to replace faulty boxes when version 4 is now being used at the factory.
Mazda UK producing promotional material to show the ND as a track car but refusing to replace failed gearboxes on cars that have been on track. No issue with the latter but if the warranty is voided by using the car on track days please advise that in the promotional material.
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