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The cars on my radar currently are Orange (I think it looks fab in the ad on Car and Classic) and Ivory.
Mogdavid Seen today at Beamish Morgan, although probably too recent a model for you. 
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I've seen the ad for this one. As you say, beyond my budget.
The pictures in the ad are in bright sun, so the indoor picture gives a different view of the colour.
I have mixed opinions about the later four seaters. They are v stylish and I do like them but I also feel they are moving a little away from my ideal of the simple, basic, lightweight sportscar of earlier decades. Its academic anyway for me on my self imposed budget of £20Kish!
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I have had a 1963 +4-4Str for 24 years. It is the Morgan I have driven 3 times across the U.S. and shipped to LeMans for the 50th. The Morgan I would have liked to source was a 4/4-4Str. The Kent engine is much lighter than a TR lump and More reliable. At the time I could not find one. There are a few in the Pacific Northwest. I would keep it stock but have it meticulously balanced.
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Hi Button
Interesting point about the weight of the Kent engine. I'm sure the triumph engine is significantly heavier (not much lighter than the Rover/Buick V8, I think) but I wonder how the Kent engine compares in weight to later four cylinder engines which are aluminium.
I've seen a table of weights somewhere but I can't remember where now (a link from Gomog?}. If I remember correctly it is a bit confusing because it is not like-for-like in terms of fluids, ancillaries, flywheels, bellhousings etc and then there are gearbox weights to consider.
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By the way, I did order the Colin Musgrove "Moggie" book, so I'll have two Morgan books on the bedside table by the weekend. I must get reading as I'm buying books much faster than I'm reading them!
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I have a 2 ltre Zetec in My '61 DHC along with a T9 transmission. The Moss box is not exactly light. This DHC had a Fiat Twin Cam and a 3spd automatic when I bought it. My Daughters loved it, but I needed more power. As it turned out this was an inexpensive conversion for Me, as a Northern Californian knew of all the parts I would need and also had a friend that had them. Incl. a Burton Sump and other items I would need. If I lived in the UK I would source a 4 Seater with a Ford CVH engine. Toss the CVH into the trash barrel and source a more modern Zetec or Duratec engine. Keep or get a 4.1 rear axle and have some fun for, hopefully, a sum that will not break Your budget. I love these engines, they like high RPM's but do have some grunt. Just do not bolt ever do dad You can find and increase the weight. The trade off for Torque/Horsepower is Low Weight and a smooth driving style. I did not originate that last statement it is well known amongst the Racers.
I bought Colin Musgrove's book Years ago, My first book 1982 I think.
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I bought a 72 4/4 4 seater three years ago, 38 years after first thinking about it.
The rear bench seat is good for luggage, but not for people. Their heads stick above the windscreen and they get the full blast of air. Most of the power from the 1600 engine goes into making the noise and its the most uncomfortable ride on 4 wheels I’ve ever experienced. When the speedo reads 85 it’s doing 70 but feels like a 100. Any faster and it bounces around so much that it feels as though it’s taking off and the noise precludes coherent thought, let alone conversation. The seats are meanly upholstered and offer no support whatsoever. The fuel gauge reads full for the first 200 miles, moves rapidly to 1/4 and stays there until iit is empty. The headlights are a reminder of the Toc H, and as the switches don’t light up groping for the wiper switch in the dark often leads to a total black out. The screen wash will spray your sunglasses as well as a bit of the screen and the two wipers will clear/smear a smaller proportion of it.
The hood can take an age to put up, especially in the cold, and doesn’t stop the rain getting in. It could do with windscreen wipers on the inside. The heater is half hearted at best and really only good for cooling the engine down when it threatens to overheat in a summer traffic jam.
In short it the best car I’ve ever had🙂.
I bought it over the phone from Life’s in Southport for £15,500, so well within your budget,with 35000 on the clock (plus another 100,000 from the first time around) and ran out of fuel on the M40 on the way home (see comments above about the fuel gauge).
Good luck with your search when the time comes. If you are not too precious about it (and can bear the thought of it getting wet or dirty) they are great fun all year round.
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I bought a 72 4/4 4 seater three years ago, 38 years after first thinking about it.
The rear bench seat is good for luggage, but not for people. Their heads stick above the windscreen and they get the full blast of air. Most of the power from the 1600 engine goes into making the noise and its the most uncomfortable ride on 4 wheels I’ve ever experienced. When the speedo reads 85 it’s doing 70 but feels like a 100. Any faster and it bounces around so much that it feels as though it’s taking off and the noise precludes coherent thought, let alone conversation. The seats are meanly upholstered and offer no support whatsoever. The fuel gauge reads full for the first 200 miles, moves rapidly to 1/4 and stays there until iit is empty. The headlights are a reminder of the Toc H, and as the switches don’t light up groping for the wiper switch in the dark often leads to a total black out. The screen wash will spray your sunglasses as well as a bit of the screen and the two wipers will clear/smear a smaller proportion of it.
The hood can take an age to put up, especially in the cold, and doesn’t stop the rain getting in. It could do with windscreen wipers on the inside. The heater is half hearted at best and really only good for cooling the engine down when it threatens to overheat in a summer traffic jam.
In short it the best car I’ve ever had🙂.
I bought it over the phone from Life’s in Southport for £15,500, so well within your budget,with 35000 on the clock (plus another 100,000 from the first time around) and ran out of fuel on the M40 on the way home (see comments above about the fuel gauge).
Good luck with your search when the time comes. If you are not too precious about it (and can bear the thought of it getting wet or dirty) they are great fun all year round.
Mark Ha! Ha! Mark You nailed it. I have a 1963 +4-4Str. I just took the back seat out and use it for a "Boot". My Friend Loretta has a '58 +4-4Str She and Husband Bob raised their two Daughters (Now Grand Mothers) in the back seat, when they left home they also removed the back seat for whatever and travelled the Western U.S. I have a picture of Loretta and Bob on top of Pike's Peak. If I could understand how to post pictures I would post this one. BTW: She also owns a Beautiful Red XKE. Guess which one She drives.
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