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Dave,
that is what my Roadster does also.
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Here's an update, and this, apparently is how the Plus 4 GDI should behave.......(I've consulted my Guru).
Key into ignition.......two seconds and two flashes and it disarms.
Leave key in ignition without turning..............
Wait 30 seconds approx, and the light goes 'flashflash flaaaaash'
So dot dot dash......and this repeats every thirty seconds while the key is in the barrel but the engine not turned on.
Mine is now doing this, so hopefully it's sorted!
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Well, yes and no.........
It's sorted with a fully charged battery. I've tested most days since this upgrade and it's been fine. But over a week without charging the battery, and on a day when it was one degree C in the garage, it was slow to disarm. Leaving the key in place, I got one dot-dot-dash, then it rearmed.
A quick charge of the battery restored normal service.
So the voltage sensitivity is real, and just something to be aware of.
On my 2005 Roadster, the immobiliser light flashes until the ignition is switched on. This means that the sensor coil is not permanently live, and on this car there is no significant battery drain.
DaveW
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Probably my final word on this. Over Christmas I've allowed the battery to slowly lose charge. I've tested response each day.
Today at 3 degrees C the immobiliser was sluggish. I put the multimeter on the battery and it's showing 12.18volts. Its now back on charge. From this I'm deducing that 12volts is the point at which things might get awkward.
But I carry a 12v booster pack when we're touring so I'm reasonably confident, now I understand what's going on.
DaveW
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If your battery is at 12V it's pretty flat already! 
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Today after the charge it showed 13.10 Volts.......
DaveW
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My spies tell me the "reluctor" which picks up the signal from the key chip is just held on with a cable tie (try checking that) and it can work loose until it fails to detect the chip. Pip pip.
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Not even a cable tie griffo...see first post. Maybe there is now...
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Thanks Dave,
I have to admit I had not read the first post. I've asked the computer gurus programming the the Ecoboost Plus 4 Plus to delete the immobiliser, which is apparently very easy. So no more chips falling out of keys and non starting issues. I will fit a "secret switch" on the power feed to the low pressure fuel pump instead.
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