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With the torque of a turbo 1500 and a light weight car I suspect it will be a lot of fun.
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you and me too, Peter -- a 2L would also be nice!
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I wonder if the automatic transmission could actually be harder to deal with in some scenarios, for instance if it does an aggressive upshift whilst you are accelerating hard with some rear end slip - whereas in a manual you might hold the gear until its straightened out to save any "grabbing".
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Good point Nick, but don't forget that the BMW box has, in effect, 4 modes.
Economy, when it starts in 2nd and gets to top as fast as possible
Comfort, again starts in 2 and changes up early, but changes down more easily.
Sport, when it starts in 1st and the change point is linked to throttle position and movement, it will go to the red line in each gear
Manual, when all gear changes are up to you, it only takes over if you hit the rev limiter and when you stop.
Also, in Comfort and Sport the box learns your driving style and in sport will hold a gear after a change down to see if you need more power again.
If you memory of auto boxes are more than 6 or 7 years old these new ones are as night and day.
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I always think an automatic is something I'll have when I'm old. The manual box on that BMW 3 litre engine is wonderful.
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Good point Nick, but don't forget that the BMW box has, in effect, 4 modes.
Economy, when it starts in 2nd and gets to top as fast as possible
Comfort, again starts in 2 and changes up early, but changes down more easily.
Sport, when it starts in 1st and the change point is linked to throttle position and movement, it will go to the red line in each gear
Manual, when all gear changes are up to you, it only takes over if you hit the rev limiter and when you stop.
Also, in Comfort and Sport the box learns your driving style and in sport will hold a gear after a change down to see if you need more power again.
If you memory of auto boxes are more than 6 or 7 years old these new ones are as night and day. Useful to know - am pleased there is a manual mode too! 
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I wonder if the automatic transmission could actually be harder to deal with in some scenarios, for instance if it does an aggressive upshift whilst you are accelerating hard with some rear end slip - whereas in a manual you might hold the gear until its straightened out to save any "grabbing". I never feel in control with an auto. Thats why I avoid them!
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I always think an automatic is something I'll have when I'm old. The manual box on that BMW 3 litre engine is wonderful. I’ll never want to go back to manual on my daily driver but I would want a Morgan to be different
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I always think an automatic is something I'll have when I'm old. The manual box on that BMW 3 litre engine is wonderful. Auto used to mean P-N-D-2-1 It doesn't anymore. Some cars have semi auto which is paddleshift including many 911's which is brilliant and most would never go back to a manual as its ponderous and slow to change with a foot clutch. The plus six has paddleshift or a sophisticated auto box.
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Agreed...
The BMW Auto Box has 8 speeds, with a sport setting which speeds up the changes. It is, for a torque converter box, very fast, almost into DCT territory.
The paddles work all time, if you want to change up or down. I use them to drop a gear when needed to ensure an exit from a corner is at optimal revs.
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