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Sorry that message was aimed at the guy converting his landie. Well done, good choice

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Originally Posted By rainbowj
I walked across Swindon to our village the other day, about 10 miles. My friend took his Kuga in for service and we decided to walk home. The point that hit us, pontificating on electric cars, was the number of flats and small terraced houses we were passing. The density of people was surprising. How will all these folks charge their cars when some small terranced houses and flats have two or three cars and no allocated space in the road.
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I walked across Swindon to our village the other day, about 10 miles. My friend took his Kuga in for service and we decided to walk home. The point that hit us, pontificating on electric cars, was the number of flats and small terraced houses we were passing. The density of people was surprising. How will all these folks charge their cars when some small terranced houses and flats have two or three cars and no allocated space in the road.



There are conversions available for lampposts, some of which have already been installed in some areas of London that would facilitate on street charging. The charging network is growing by the day, look at the zap map app to see how many charge points there are.

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[quote=Cineman]Long motorway journeys (I do 400 miles per week on motorways) are the killer for electric cars. Even the iPace - which I seriously thought about - will struggle to make 200 miles on a rainy winter motorway at night. The interesting thing about the calculator (https://www.jaguar.co.uk/jaguar-range/i-pace/electric-vehicles/index.html) is that it reminds us all how tires, temperature, rain and wind make a big impact on energy use, whether electric, diesel , petrol of any other source. My Discovery Sport regularly uses more fuel returning South because of the prevailing SW wind etc etc.
I read that we will need 7 new power stations to create the energy needed if all cars are electric by 2040.. and I don't here any talk about that from Westminster.. (Ha!)..

If you do 400 miles a week, presumably not in one journey, then you should be able to use an EV, I studied my mileages for 12 months before going to an ev. Easy to do on google maps timeline.

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Originally Posted By Stewart S
A friend of a friend who is a very clever engineer is working with Siemens apparently developing a hydrogen system to charge vehicle batteries without electric cars having to charge from the national grid

I’ve been told it’s quite developed


Now that is the sort of innovation that we need pushing and hard too.


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I read that we will need 7 new power stations to create the energy needed if all cars are electric by 2040.. and I don't here any talk about that from Westminster.. (Ha!)..
I think this 'statistic' has been debunked. It assumed that all electric cars would plug in to charge at the same time apparently. A bit like every petrol/diesel car turning up at filling stations at the exact same time. Imagine what chaos that would cause!


I'm not so sure, when we have a hard winter the National Grid can't cope at present hence all the power cuts. Imagine what will happen if you get up in the morning and the power has been off most of the night, can't get to work !


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The interesting thing about the calculator (https://www.jaguar.co.uk/jaguar-range/i-pace/electric-vehicles/index.html) is that it reminds us all how tires, temperature, rain and wind make a big impact on energy use, whether electric, diesel , petrol of any other source.


My drive to work is up the M5 and M6 to stay in a hotel in Southport (186 miles) and then about 20 miles next day to the office (so 206 miles) and then back to Bristol - another 186 miles. We are putting a charging station in work, so I could re-charge there, but the problem is that I really need to do the 206 miles on one charge in winter with the heater, lights, music on, phone charging etc and I don't have much confidence that this capability really exists yet.

Does anyone out there really get a 240 mile range of all motorway at night in the cold ?

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Originally Posted By Stewart S
A friend of a friend who is a very clever engineer is working with Siemens apparently developing a hydrogen system to charge vehicle batteries without electric cars having to charge from the national grid

I’ve been told it’s quite developed

That would be a fuel cell - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_cell - I expect...
Basically they are used in "hydrogen cars" today. But you could put them anywhere you have a source of hydrogen (think a local solar power station that converts excess electric into hydrogen instead of expensive batteries, or a service station that needs short bursts of high power to charge cars...). No idea what the economics of fuel cells are though...


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Does anyone know the ratio of lamposts to houses in a typical street with terraced houses?


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Current rental (Audi A3 Sportback) comes up next March so considering the EV route - mileage, etc makes it viable but I wouldn't pay a premium of more than a few K over the equivalent petrol model.


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Originally Posted By rainbowj
Does anyone know the ratio of lamposts to houses in a typical street with terraced houses?


The average for 30mph speed limit areas is one every 200 yds.


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