Click here to return to the home page.
Image of a road.
Who's Online Now
5 members (+8Rich, aerotaff, Bishmog, John V6, simon8201), 203 guests, and 32 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Top Posters(30 Days)
+8Rich 90
Luddite 50
Newest Members
Carbuilder, Scot_SJI, Jimmers, Breen60, Davidmog
9,597 Registered Users
Newest Topics
morgan supersport 357 miles
by Nick_H - 09/09/26 09:13 PM
M3W Treffen 2027
by Laurens - 09/09/26 08:12 PM
Changing the Colour of a Tonneau Cover..
by flyfisher - 09/09/26 06:33 PM
To our Norwegian friends
by bmgermany - 09/09/26 05:14 PM
2017 4/4 two seater storm cover new unused £95
by simon8201 - 09/09/26 01:46 PM
radiator fan
by riri - 08/09/26 09:20 PM
Luggage rack alternatives - Revo Rack
by Haggispeed - 08/09/26 04:19 PM
Latest Photos
1989 Morgan Plus 4 in Ontario, Canada
1989 Morgan Plus 4 in Ontario, Canada
by Carbuilder, September 5
First anniversary of Plus 4
First anniversary of Plus 4
by Strathaven, September 5
Wales
Wales
by Joske Vermeule, September 1
Engine/Gearbox Separator CX Models
Engine/Gearbox Separator CX Models
by number thirteen, August 30
tow bar
tow bar
by G Walker, August 24
Forum Statistics
Forums39
Topics49,896
Posts837,961
Members9,597
Most Online1,063
Jun 14th, 2026
Today's Birthdays
Bobajobbob, HeadlessBlue, Lester247, RicHardy
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 4 1 2 3 4
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 27,833
Likes: 758
Member of the Inner Circle
Online Content
Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 27,833
Likes: 758
I have had them as snow tyres & they worked well. No experience of them as summer tyres though.


JohnV6
2022 CX Plus Four
2025 Renault Scenic Alpine etech "Yvette"
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,799
Likes: 4
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
Offline
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,799
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by IcePack
robmog88, opportune post. I have just ordered 4 vredestein sprint classics (175/70/R15 86H) for my 4/4. Will post what they are like once delivered & fitted.


I'll be very interested to see how you get on changing from the standard 165/80R15 to the 175/70R15.

I think you will have to tweak your speedo calibration and it should give the effect of raising the final drive ratio for better acceleration.

Difference should be about 7 or 8%


Bob

2009 Black Roadster
1999 4/4 2 litre Zetec
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 7,435
Likes: 122
Talk Morgan Guru
Offline
Talk Morgan Guru
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 7,435
Likes: 122
The difference is about 3% more speed shown and it is 0.9 cm less clearance, so it is not too much of a difference.


'14 4/4 graphite grey
Heinz #602107 03/11/19 01:58 PM
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,799
Likes: 4
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
Offline
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,799
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by Heinz
The difference is about 3% more speed shown and it is 0.9 cm less clearance, so it is not too much of a difference.


You're right Heinz,

Stupid calculator. (Me, not the machine)


Bob

2009 Black Roadster
1999 4/4 2 litre Zetec
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 1,035
Likes: 36
M
mph Offline
Has a lot to Say!
Offline
Has a lot to Say!
M
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 1,035
Likes: 36
Sidewall deformation was a fairly common occurrence on the Sprint Classics - not sure if it still is ? Apparently it doesn't affect their performance and isn't of any concern.

mph #602172 04/11/19 06:54 AM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 12,265
Likes: 321
Scruffy Oik
Member of the Inner Circle
Offline
Scruffy Oik
Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 12,265
Likes: 321
Originally Posted by mph
Sidewall deformation was a fairly common occurrence on the Sprint Classics - not sure if it still is ? Apparently it doesn't affect their performance and isn't of any concern.



Not sure about 'fairly common', I've only ever seen photographs of two cars with it on a couple of tyres. I've been using these tyres since 2013 having bought 9 so far, and none of them have had the issue.


Tim H.
1986 4/4 VVTi Sport, 2002 LR Defender, 2022 Mini Cooper SE
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 1,035
Likes: 36
M
mph Offline
Has a lot to Say!
Offline
Has a lot to Say!
M
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 1,035
Likes: 36
Originally Posted by Hamwich
Originally Posted by mph
Sidewall deformation was a fairly common occurrence on the Sprint Classics - not sure if it still is ? Apparently it doesn't affect their performance and isn't of any concern.



Not sure about 'fairly common', I've only ever seen photographs of two cars with it on a couple of tyres. I've been using these tyres since 2013 having bought 9 so far, and none of them have had the issue.


Probably they've now solved the problem. It was certainly "fairly common" some years back which is why I mentioned it. I have personal experience, as do friends of mine.

Here's a link when I first raised it a few years back. The picture is typical of the sidewall deformation I've seen on dozens of Vredesteins.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=140&t=1159000

mph #602198 04/11/19 10:56 AM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,245
Likes: 2
M
Has a lot to Say!
Offline
Has a lot to Say!
M
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,245
Likes: 2
I am ex-tyre manufacturing and I posted this in a previous thread on this subject. I am happy to use Vredestein Sprint Classics on my current 4/4 and previously used them for road, hillclimbs and production car trials without problems.

"Sidewall bulges and hollows are a function of the way in which the sidewall is applied during the tyre building process. In manual tyre building the sidewalls are applied to a horizontal drum and joined (or spliced) butt, or with a specified amount of overlap. If the overlap is too large it can cause a bulge at the join and a hollow in the area immediately behind the join.These are normally cosmetic defects and will not affect the performance of the tyre. Bulges which are caused by structural damage which results in spreading of the ply cords on the other hand, are dangerous and any tyre which has this damage should be replaced immediately.
Tyres which are supplied to car manufacturers as original equipment (O/E) have to meet the car manufacturers' specification for sidewall undulations and tyre manufacturers employ sophisticated measurement equipment during the final inspection phase of the tyre manufacturing operations to check this.Since the type of tyres we are talking about are not used as O/E I will leave you to draw your own conclusions............"

Max5 #602286 05/11/19 07:56 AM
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 987
R
Talk Morgan Regular
OP Offline
Talk Morgan Regular
R
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 987
Originally Posted by Max5
I am ex-tyre manufacturing and I posted this in a previous thread on this subject. I am happy to use Vredestein Sprint Classics on my current 4/4 and previously used them for road, hillclimbs and production car trials without problems.

"Sidewall bulges and hollows are a function of the way in which the sidewall is applied during the tyre building process. In manual tyre building the sidewalls are applied to a horizontal drum and joined (or spliced) butt, or with a specified amount of overlap. If the overlap is too large it can cause a bulge at the join and a hollow in the area immediately behind the join.These are normally cosmetic defects and will not affect the performance of the tyre. Bulges which are caused by structural damage which results in spreading of the ply cords on the other hand, are dangerous and any tyre which has this damage should be replaced immediately.
Tyres which are supplied to car manufacturers as original equipment (O/E) have to meet the car manufacturers' specification for sidewall undulations and tyre manufacturers employ sophisticated measurement equipment during the final inspection phase of the tyre manufacturing operations to check this.Since the type of tyres we are talking about are not used as O/E I will leave you to draw your own conclusions............"



Very useful, many thanks

Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,245
Likes: 2
M
Has a lot to Say!
Offline
Has a lot to Say!
M
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,245
Likes: 2
I should probably point out that I didn't work for Vredestein!

Page 2 of 4 1 2 3 4

Moderated by  TalkMorgan 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5