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Just barreling along Needs to Get Out More!
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Anyone experienced changing from old style electric meter to the new smart meters please?
I booked an appointment to do this with my energy supplier EDF who when they came told me the meter cupboard, recessed into the external wall, wasn’t big enough.
Apparently it’s down to me to provide a large enough cupboard to fit the new smart meter.
Struggled to get the dimensions they require for the new meter, but now discussing with local builder and electrician.
Seems much more difficult than I realised, anyone had the same issues or was it a walk in the park if you’ve done it?
I think your provider is talking Bo11ocks, the new smart / digital meters are way smaller than old style rotarys especially the projection out from the rear mounting board Jon M, That’s the conclusion I’m rapidly arriving at, they can’t give specific dimensions for the smets2 meter they are going to fit as “they’re all different” And admittedly my meter cupboard has all sorts of additional items which were installed in there when my solar array was installed. But to be honest it does seem to be a problem to which the remedy will be a significant spend to enlarge the cupboard. Not to mention some knocking out of bricks in the wall etc BR Rob Rob, I have measured mine now I'm home, as I have old style for main meter and smart for the EV supply Old rotary 125w x 180h x 125deep New digital 120w x 190h x 80deep As you can see they are 'designed' to make the swop easy as the backplate dim is almost identical & the in out cable positions are the same too, a good sparky would take less than 20 mins inc an earth test
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Look here www.purepla.netNo need for smart meter's
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I was with SSE for dual supply. In one bill they included an estimate of predicted costs based on my estimated/average usage and my tariff. The estimated cost for the smart meter option was actually higher than for my standard meter.
In our old house a few years ago they tried fitting a smart meter but as there was no mobile phone signal they couldn’t. I queried if they could fit a signal booster but just got blank looks.
I can see the eventual cost saving for the supply companies due to reading costs but until variable tariffs are in place I will wait.
Our present house has a water meter and that saves about £300/year over non meter usage. That is not a smart meter and I wonder when there would be a plan for upgrades there too. Living in Wales we don’t get water shortages!
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Errr....
We’re starting our Smart meter roll out
We’re starting to install second generation Smart meters (SMETS 2) for our Members. We’re currently inviting Members to take part in our pilot, and we’ll continue to expand our roll out throughout 2019 and 2020. Sorry — we can't currently install if you have a first generation Smart meter, or a feed-in tariff.
What is a smart meter, what does it do, and why should you have one?
READ OUR FAQS
Tim H.
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I had 2 smart meters fitted about 5 years ago. It was quite intersting to see the profile of use for the first few weeks until the novelty wore off.
The reason for having these fitted was because my contract with Scottish Power required me to submit regular meter readings which was difficult when I was away. After about 5 months the gas meter stopped communicating with the network so I was back to submitting my own readings. I have reported this to SP several times and about 3 months ago I was told that a new meter would be fitted - yet nothing further heard.
SMETS2 meters would make switching quicker and easier but 1st generation meters can be a barrier to switching. Some people might save money but many of us won't save a bean. I think smart metering was misguided as the cost per household is several hundred pounds.
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I was with SSE for dual supply. In one bill they included an estimate of predicted costs based on my estimated/average usage and my tariff. The estimated cost for the smart meter option was actually higher than for my standard meter.
In our old house a few years ago they tried fitting a smart meter but as there was no mobile phone signal they couldn’t. I queried if they could fit a signal booster but just got blank looks.
I can see the eventual cost saving for the supply companies due to reading costs but until variable tariffs are in place I will wait.
Our present house has a water meter and that saves about £300/year over non meter usage. That is not a smart meter and I wonder when there would be a plan for upgrades there too. Living in Wales we don’t get water shortages! I talked to Wessex Water about remote reading water meters. The summary: not possible to meters that are underground. The meter would have to be moved above ground and ideally be close to the smart electric meter so it could piggyback the same transmitter. Smart Gas Meters have a small transmitter, sufficient to talk to the electricity meter. Also, the law says that the Water Company is responsible for all pipework up to the main stopcock, usually on or close to the boundary of the property: the owner is responsible for the pipes on the property. So moving the water meter to the building would extend the water company's responsibility. Perhaps new builds will be fitted with smart water meters one day, but existing buildings? I don't see it in my life time.
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Further to my previous post, I have now received a 'mail from E-ON who inform me that as part of my new contract I have to have smart meters so that will be interesting. I will up date in due course.
Here for a good time not a long time!!
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When we had our E-ON installed a couple of years ago the Scouser with California teeth took 4 hours I couldn't believe it.
It saves all the faffing around in the meter cupboard I'm happy with it and the companies tarrifs.
If you are the nervous paranoid type that's not happy providing the information automatically just switch it off.
They learn far more about you at the supermarket checkout.
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We had an N-Power smart meter a few years ago. It failed to connect to the gas meter reliably so it's somewhere in the loft.
A complete waste of money.
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If you are the nervous paranoid type that's not happy providing the information automatically just switch it off.
I was under the impression that there was no connection between the display unit and the transmission of data. Am I wrong?
Paul
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