Talk Morgan Forums Community The Malvern Arms When to have a punt on Aston Martin shares ?

Yes Trump has a lot to worry about but I think Boeing will come out of this alright in the end, a lot of the Air Forces rely too heavily on them so they'll survive, you might need to look at a medium term investment though it won't be a quick killing.

It would have been nice to have a few Hays shares in the back pocket, hindsight is a wonderful thing..

When I worked for Racal we had an SAYE scheme and were offered shares at £1.12 each so I put away as much each month as I could afford running a wife and 3 youngsters in further education, it was the best investment ever and I won't tell you what they sold at as I don't like seeing grown men cry.

Aston looks a bit sick: they have issued another profits warning and need a big slug of cash.
It is interesting that Geely are in discussion.
https://www.ft.com/content/d2959822-33a4-11ea-9703-eea0cae3f0de

I can't help feeling that they need to be owned by Mercedes Benz to really succeed. Rolls Royce, Bentley, Bugatti and Lamborghini seem to have thrived under the umbrella of a German parent.

Not a bad call given the close AMG relationship building. The big boss of AMG is a massive petrolhead of the old school. BMW and Audi have been quite successful with the premium brands but MB seem to have resisted this and just done engineering exchanges up to now, it would be interesting to watch for certain.

Aston is the classic ex private equity company, flogged off at a silly price at the top of the market and loaded up with more debt than it can possibly carry. I said on here that I believed it would eventually go bust and I see no reason to change my mind. To the contrary, I see reasons to be even more sure.

Its sad but bullpoo and ambition have simply eclipsed financial common sense. WTF is it doing sponsoring F1 for example?

Boeing will survive. Its an America icon and just like Harley (which was propped up by Regan) and GM, the US government will talk about freetrade and prop it up. The only government that really lets its key industries fail is the British one.

Agreed Howard but where does that leave the shares when it goes pop!

I bet people thought that about Pan Am. I was on Pan Am Flight 103 just a couple of weeks before the Lockerbie disaster. I remember being shocked at the appalling condition of the aircraft for what was the American Flag airline. Lockerbie probably just brought the thing to an end.

Tesla, despite expectations, seems to be doing quite well.

The one I wish I had bought shares in is Amazon 10 years ago.