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Originally Posted by KEVFITZ
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What a shame !!!!...hope occupants ok...only 81 miles run.

Asking £53,000


I think I would be a bit nervous. Lotus cars with that sort of damage are ofte written off as unrepairable in reality because you cannot pull a glued ally stucture straight in the way you can a steel one. Has the plus 6 got a sacrificial front and rear frame? I believe the Evora has at the front but not the rear. So the car has been bought from the insurance company as a write off described as repairable but I wonder if it is.

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What a shame !!!!...hope occupants ok...only 81 miles run.

Asking £53,000


I think I would be a bit nervous. Lotus cars with that sort of damage are ofte written off as unrepairable in reality because you cannot pull a glued ally stucture straight in the way you can a steel one. Has the plus 6 got a sacrificial front and rear frame? I believe the Evora has at the front but not the rear. So the car has been bought from the insurance company as a write off described as repairable but I wonder if it is.


Yes, it will be interesting to see how the insurance industry responds.

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There are no repair methods for a "bonded and riveted chassis".

IF the chassis on that car is damaged the only repair is a new one.....


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It’s a CAT so structural would need registered with DVLA etc.. looks like it was from Berrybrook.

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I also think at that asking price it is totally over priced?


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I was talking to Henry at Williams about this today.
It was spun, on the way home from the supplying dealer.
The early arrival of a massive amount of torque catches people out, and once the back end has gone that is it.
As with the NL car, a low mileage on green tyres summer and a cold wet road, plus the arrival of all the torque at low revs played their part.
As much the driver as the car, but for those used to computer managed traction and stability aids the Plus Six will bite..hard.
Winter tyres and possibly a better suspension set up would help, but driver training/awareness are key.


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Originally Posted by Peter J
I was talking to Henry at Williams about this today.
It was spun, on the way home from the supplying dealer.
The early arrival of a massive amount of torque catches people out, and once the back end has gone that is it.
As with the NL car, a low mileage on green tyres summer and a cold wet road, plus the arrival of all the torque at low revs played their part.
As much the driver as the car, but for those used to computer managed traction and stability aids the Plus Six will bite..hard.
Winter tyres and possibly a better suspension set up would help, but driver training/awareness are key.


You'd be gutted, wouldn't you..?

Poor bugger..


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What confusies me is that I found the power delivery rather linear when I test drove the Plus Six.
Of course, I did not give it A full throttle at once, but did test its power a few times. Road was wettish then. Not once did I get the feeling the car would loose traction or that increase of power or torque were in any way ‘sudden‘. But maybe I was just lucky...

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Originally Posted by 60Yards
What confusies me is that I found the power delivery rather linear when I test drove the Plus Six.
Of course, I did not give it A full throttle at once, but did test its power a few times. Road was wettish then. Not once did I get the feeling the car would loose traction or that increase of power or torque were in any way ‘sudden‘. But maybe I was just lucky...


Maybe you depressed the throttle smoothly rather than stamping on it. But there may be other explanations for these accidents. Impossible to know just yet. Possibly it's one of those statistical blips, possibly it's something for the MMC to worry about.

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Originally Posted by howard
Originally Posted by KEVFITZ
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What a shame !!!!...hope occupants ok...only 81 miles run.

Asking £53,000


I think I would be a bit nervous. Lotus cars with that sort of damage are ofte written off as unrepairable in reality because you cannot pull a glued ally stucture straight in the way you can a steel one. Has the plus 6 got a sacrificial front and rear frame? I believe the Evora has at the front but not the rear. So the car has been bought from the insurance company as a write off described as repairable but I wonder if it is.

Catalytic recycling? Surely Catastrophic would be more appropriate?
According to "Lotus Evora - sublime Supercar" by Johnny Tipler, both ends Howard smile
If it was a Berrybrook customer, Neville mentioned it to a couple of us at the factory a week or so back.

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