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Some of you may recall the Anglesey crossbow murder, well they finally nailed this abject cretin utilising some RR data. CrossbowI hadn't appreciated the level of information they were capable of reading, but why would I being a Classic Plus 8 driver
2009 4/4 Sport Henrietta 1999 Indigo Blue +8 2009 4/4 Sport Green prev 1993 Con Green +8 prev
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Wow, big brother is watching you. The Sky thing was also a surprise to me.
JohnV6 2022 CX Plus Four 2025 Renault Scenic Alpine etech "Yvette"
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Wow, big brother is watching you. The Sky thing was also a surprise to me. Orwell‘s 1984 is a joke if you compare it to today's surveillance.
Hannes once: Green M3W; 2013 now: Red 4/4 Sport; 2011 and some practical cars for use in real life
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I guess that plod can access this data for even such minor issues as speeding
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When full speed sign recognition coupled with GPS comes in to play you won't be able to speed anyway.
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I guess that plod can access this data for even such minor issues as speeding I thought you had to either hand it over to them (a stern look tends to cause this apparently) or they need a warrant if they believe it can be used in evidence. If you have a dashcam you can always swallow the SD card however do remember that this may not actually wipe it depending on your constitution. Its also a good reason to buy a modern one with a micro-SD as it is a lot smaller and transits the system more easily apparently.....
Everyone loves a Morgan. Even me, unless it's broken again.
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I guess that plod can access this data for even such minor issues as speeding I thought you had to either hand it over to them (a stern look tends to cause this apparently) or they need a warrant if they believe it can be used in evidence. If you have a dashcam you can always swallow the SD card however do remember that this may not actually wipe it depending on your constitution. Its also a good reason to buy a modern one with a micro-SD as it is a lot smaller and transits the system more easily apparently..... Consumed with a strong curry should sort it 
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I guess that plod can access this data for even such minor issues as speeding I thought you had to either hand it over to them (a stern look tends to cause this apparently) or they need a warrant if they believe it can be used in evidence. If you have a dashcam you can always swallow the SD card however do remember that this may not actually wipe it depending on your constitution. Its also a good reason to buy a modern one with a micro-SD as it is a lot smaller and transits the system more easily apparently..... The data from the Mercedes Me system is in the Cloud... not in the car.
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I guess that plod can access this data for even such minor issues as speeding I thought you had to either hand it over to them (a stern look tends to cause this apparently) or they need a warrant if they believe it can be used in evidence. If you have a dashcam you can always swallow the SD card however do remember that this may not actually wipe it depending on your constitution. Its also a good reason to buy a modern one with a micro-SD as it is a lot smaller and transits the system more easily apparently..... The data from the Mercedes Me system is in the Cloud... not in the car. That's where the Range Rover data was accessed from by JLR as the car had been burnt out in an attempt to destroy evidence, perhaps that's the modus operandi for them all.
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This is the architecture of the future for many reasons. By holding it in a central site they can do so much more with it in order to benefit the user. This is how Apple shares your content across all of your devices to provide a seamless user experience.
It also reduces the costs (hardware in the remote device, 1,000,000s of cars) software updates (slow and done wrongly kill the cars central nervous system costing warranty ££) It also allows them to observe trends and design accordingly to provide us with cooler better stuff quickly. For each Pro there is a Con of course.
Would I trust Apple to do this for me. Yes. Would I trust Farcbook. ha ha ha ha ha. Would I trust any of them if I did not HAVE to, no. If it is free or worse still advertising funded and big enough to be a target then you have to ask how much can be dedicated to securing it and ensuring the admins are on point.
I would be interested to see the path of a UK Police warrant being served for an MB car in the UK which was caught in an operation. Does MB have the "Cloud" in a German datacentre (European law and German privacy being strict) How will a post Brexit request from the UK be handled by the German agencies on request to release the information. Is the necessary treaty in place to support this already and continuing to be honoured post Brexit ? Most importantly what is in the licence agreement we all click through without reading. I will admit to never having read one in my life.
So that will depend on where the "Cloud" is floating above (which country is the data stored in) and who generates it (UK, US or German company) given the complexity of the law around this area?
I find this area very interesting which tells me I really need to get out in the car more.
Everyone loves a Morgan. Even me, unless it's broken again.
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