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Yes but only four standard colours, two interior colours, and four alloys.
Even red costs extra.
DaveW '05 Red Roadster S1 '16 Yellow (Not the only) Narrow AR GDI Plus 4
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Yes but only four standard colours, two interior colours, and four alloys.
Even red costs extra. It gets to the price point where a buyer might start to think he may as well have the basic spec Plus 6. A marketing strategy, perhaps?
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...unless I sold them both, and then how do I pass the time? Finish that railway? 
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...unless I sold them both, and then how do I pass the time? Finish that railway?  Very good point Graham...........
DaveW '05 Red Roadster S1 '16 Yellow (Not the only) Narrow AR GDI Plus 4
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Having had a look at the car in the flesh now I can see it represents a real change from the current Plus 4 in terms of the driving experience and in a number of other important ways and will therefore be attractive to current owners who love the Morgan design values. Will it attract new customers to the Marqué ? I think it will but not in large numbers in the UK , the prize is the USA and I suspect the pricing is allowing dealers to make a better margin . The question of traditional Plus 4 values is a different matter , the balance between supply and demand in the UK is measured in tens not hundreds , I promise you that if 30 to 40 current Plus 4 owners order a new Plus Four at launch( not an improbable figure) then secondhand values will fall . Have a look at how many unsold Plus 4’s thé dealer network currently has , all of this is exerting downward pressure. It may well be a short term phenomenon so perhaps hang back a bit before placing that order?
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The more likely shift will be from current 3.7 Roadster owners.
This group are already in the £50/£60k zone, and want that performance level.
Current trad Plus 4 owners were either not looking for Roadster performance, or not wanting to spend Roadster money. So I'm not convinced that many trad Plus 4 owners will make that change.
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The more likely shift will be from current 3.7 Roadster owners.
This group are already in the £50/£60k zone, and want that performance level.
Current trad Plus 4 owners were either not looking for Roadster performance, or not wanting to spend Roadster money. So I'm not convinced that many trad Plus 4 owners will make that change. I think you may well be right, Dave. I have a 3.7 Roadster which, with the factory fitted ECU upgrade gives c.300 bhp. The car didn’t need the extra power: it was a consequence of me wanting to get rid of the Rev hang, which it did. However, this amount of power is probably too much for the trad chassis and suspension and requires a delicate and fully focussed mind when pushing the car on. I traded my ARP4 in for the Roadster because the Cosworth just did not deliver enough low down torque and required me to keep the revs up above 3500/4000 to get it moving at a reasonable pace. The Roadster delivers torque in abundance but, realistically, a well tuned trad Plus 4 with 180 to 200 bhp is perhaps a more satisfying balance for the trad chassis. So, I am really tempted by the new CX Plus Four. A modern chassis, 255 bhp, narrower body than the Plus 6 and brakes and suspension to match with a manual gearbox ticks all of my boxes. A test drive will be high on my agenda once the demonstrators arrive at the dealers. Morgan have delivered a winner here which will appeal to both older drivers like me as well as a new market from those much younger than me who seek something quite different from the norm but will be expecting a driving experience similar to a Z4 or Boxster.
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Yes but only four standard colours, two interior colours, and four alloys.
Even red costs extra. Not the worst vendor out there for that to be fair. MB have two colours as basic and then everything is extra!
Everyone loves a Morgan. Even me, unless it's broken again.
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The more likely shift will be from current 3.7 Roadster owners.
This group are already in the £50/£60k zone, and want that performance level.
Current trad Plus 4 owners were either not looking for Roadster performance, or not wanting to spend Roadster money. So I'm not convinced that many trad Plus 4 owners will make that change. I think you may well be right, Dave. I have a 3.7 Roadster which, with the factory fitted ECU upgrade gives c.300 bhp. The car didn’t need the extra power: it was a consequence of me wanting to get rid of the Rev hang, which it did. However, this amount of power is probably too much for the trad chassis and suspension and requires a delicate and fully focussed mind when pushing the car on. I traded my ARP4 in for the Roadster because the Cosworth just did not deliver enough low down torque and required me to keep the revs up above 3500/4000 to get it moving at a reasonable pace. The Roadster delivers torque in abundance but, realistically, a well tuned trad Plus 4 with 180 to 200 bhp is perhaps a more satisfying balance for the trad chassis. So, I am really tempted by the new CX Plus Four. A modern chassis, 255 bhp, narrower body than the Plus 6 and brakes and suspension to match with a manual gearbox ticks all of my boxes. A test drive will be high on my agenda once the demonstrators arrive at the dealers. Morgan have delivered a winner here which will appeal to both older drivers like me as well as a new market from those much younger than me who seek something quite different from the norm but will be expecting a driving experience similar to a Z4 or Boxster. ARP4 followed by 3.7 , followed by new plusfour.......quite a line up of Mogs there ! Go for it ! 
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