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Not sure that this is strictly correct on the Plus 8 section, spare tyre?

The new Plus8 was introduced in 2012 using the Aero 8 platform, 4.8L engine and manual or automatic gearbox. The body is intended to match the style of the traditional model with the same shape wings and rear panels. It also has an interior more like the traditional model with central dials, removable side-screens and a traditional soft-top. Where the Aero cars have a boot the Plus 8 has a rear shelf behind the seats but no boot. In most cases the owners mount either the spare tyre or a luggage rack.

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Missed that:

The rear pannel has a removable circular panel that suggests a spare might be carried, but in practice this is impossible. The fuel tank fills most of the space behind the panel.

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That view is not very befitting of Tarka Peter, please confirm it was detailed before the panel went back on? hide


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Originally Posted by PeterG
Not sure that this is strictly correct on the Plus 8 section, spare tyre?

The new Plus8 was introduced in 2012 using the Aero 8 platform, 4.8L engine and manual or automatic gearbox. The body is intended to match the style of the traditional model with the same shape wings and rear panels. It also has an interior more like the traditional model with central dials, removable side-screens and a traditional soft-top. Where the Aero cars have a boot the Plus 8 has a rear shelf behind the seats but no boot. In most cases the owners mount either the spare tyre or a luggage rack.

Agreed Peter(s), I've never seen one with a spare wheel mounted!

Also when the Aero Series 5 got it's new suspension, so did the Plus 8...


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Ciao Brian, theCustomer and Nick I hope they will help me on this as well... Pleaseeeeee laugh


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Originally Posted by Peter J
Missed that:

The rear pannel has a removable circular panel that suggests a spare might be carried, but in practice this is impossible. The fuel tank fills most of the space behind the panel.

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Even with the boot conversion from Morgan Park DE there is still limited room.


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Originally Posted by Aeroman
Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Famous for its cross-eyed squint courtesy of the reversed VW Beetle headlamps, which were used as a way to allow the leading edge of the front wings to be forward of the radiator, thus providing space to incorporate a front splitter (providing much needed downforce) during the extensive wind tunnel testing at MIRA
The decision not to have pods (headlights) on the new Morgan was taken during the time that they were using Plus 8 development cars and I think there was a Yellow Plus 8 that had Porsche lights fitted! The choice of headlights was very much a question of what was available at the time, initially I believe that BMW were thinking about Morgan using the Cooper S lights, but decided against it as they wanted their own model to be the first to launch these lights.


I believe this is mostly incorrect and a long standing untrue rumour, the quoted text is correct as I updated it yesterday from the Morgan literature I have, and that was quoted from Chris Lawrence himself.

Whilst there is some truth behind using what was available at the time, it was not down to BMW as to why these were chosen but rather the odd shape. Chris saw the lights and noted the ascue angle was perfect as it solved an aerodynamic problem at the front of the vehicle.

I will have to double-check my source and make sure just incase either way.. cheers


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Originally Posted by Aeroman
Originally Posted by Ale_72
I haven't sort it out yet. And I read somewhere that wikipedia is pretty picky with images.
I am a newbie as well and I am learning by trying.

Well done Ale, I've just looked at the new Aero 8 Wiki site and there's some great content. However, there are also some bloopers including in the first sentence on the Series 1 "and designed by the firm's designer Matthew Humphries." I'm afraid that this is incorrect as Matt Humphries was not involved in any way with Morgan at this time. Matt's first Morgan car design was the AeroMax, he sent the basic design of it to CM when he was at Coventry University and joined Morgan on a KTP programme, see LinkedIn Incidentally, I picked up my first Aero 8 - Series 1 'Kermit' in 2002, having delayed the build somewhat.

The Aero 8 shape evolved in the traditional Morgan way of form follows function and the main players were Chris Lawrence, Charles Morgan and other members of the Morgan Engineering Team, and Norman Kent of Survirn Engineering Ltd - especially for the tooling of the Aero wings.

Radshape were heavily involved in the chassis (Graham Chapman, the current MMC Development Director was working for them at that time) and Superform with much of the body panels, both companies eventually producing for MMC when the car was launched. I'll reread the Wiki entry and let you have any possible other comments in due course.


This is correct, I have the literature to confirm but haven't gotten around to updating it yet!
It was on my to do list but I made so many edits I forgot this one and lost track...

Will try to do it later if I can.


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This one I think I updated it on the page. Hopefully... Cannot even remind it laugh


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Originally Posted by NickCW
Originally Posted by Aeroman
Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Famous for its cross-eyed squint courtesy of the reversed VW Beetle headlamps, which were used as a way to allow the leading edge of the front wings to be forward of the radiator, thus providing space to incorporate a front splitter (providing much needed downforce) during the extensive wind tunnel testing at MIRA
The decision not to have pods (headlights) on the new Morgan was taken during the time that they were using Plus 8 development cars and I think there was a Yellow Plus 8 that had Porsche lights fitted! The choice of headlights was very much a question of what was available at the time, initially I believe that BMW were thinking about Morgan using the Cooper S lights, but decided against it as they wanted their own model to be the first to launch these lights.


I believe this is mostly incorrect and a long standing untrue rumour, the quoted text is correct as I updated it yesterday from the Morgan literature I have, and that was quoted from Chris Lawrence himself.

Whilst there is some truth behind using what was available at the time, it was not down to BMW as to why these were chosen but rather the odd shape. Chris saw the lights and noted the ascue angle was perfect as it solved an aerodynamic problem at the front of the vehicle.

I will have to double-check my source and make sure just incase either way.. cheers

Before posting I confirmed with Steve Morris this morning, who should know as he was involved at the time. You pays your money and you takes your choice. smile


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