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Agreed . It should be all vehicles
JohnV6 2022 CX Plus Four 2025 MG ZS EV aka Trigger
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I used to ride with a group that included a bike with a 2 letter. 2 number plate. 100% legal, but really very small!
For cars there is no specified legal size other than an absolute minimum margin of 11mm producing, a font height 79mm and a width of 50mm, the margins must be 11mm all round. So for a 2 letter 2 number the width would be 272mm and the height of 101mm. I would love PJ 52, but I wouldn't pay the silly monies asked!.
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Peter, 66, 2016 Porsche Boxster S No longer driving Tarka, the 2014 Plus 8...
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Was out in the (very) heavy rain yesterday, so was looking out to see how 'reflective/obvious' the yellow plates were. Even at dusk, with rain and heavy road spray, it was really easy to spot rear lights well before any form of numberplate (or car shape) could be made out.
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Was out in the (very) heavy rain yesterday, so was looking out to see how 'reflective/obvious' the yellow plates were. Even at dusk, with rain and heavy road spray, it was really easy to spot rear lights well before any form of numberplate (or car shape) could be made out.
Agree, especially now I've got LED rear lights. One advantage of reflective plates is if you are parked up in a street, car park etc without your vehicle lights on. Not that I do that.
Rob
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Was out in the (very) heavy rain yesterday, so was looking out to see how 'reflective/obvious' the yellow plates were. Even at dusk, with rain and heavy road spray, it was really easy to spot rear lights well before any form of numberplate (or car shape) could be made out.
Agree, especially now I've got LED rear lights. One advantage of reflective plates is if you are parked up in a street, car park etc without your vehicle lights on. Not that I do that. Luckily on the 4 seater, we have reflectors on each rear wing 
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Ive got reflectors too but they're quite small and none on the front!
Rob
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Just received this DVLA info via the Land Rover S2C forum.
This note is to tell you about important changes being introduced on 1 January 2021 that affect the ability of vehicles registered in the historic tax class to display the old style pre-1973 black and silver number plates.
Following the change in definition of a historic vehicle for vehicle tax exemption purposes in 2015, an issue was identified in the regulatory requirements for the valid display of a black and silver number plate. This resulted in an unintended consequence where any vehicle over 40 years old and registered in the historic tax class would be permitted to display an old style black and silver number plate. This was despite the law previously requiring all vehicles first registered after 1 January 1973 to only display the yellow and white number plates with black characters.
As this was never the intention, we have sought to rectify this through a legal correction which will shortly be implemented. The change seeks to prevent any vehicle constructed after 1 January 1980 from the ability to display the black and silver number plate despite being recorded in the DVLA’s historic tax class. Those vehicles with a construction date prior to 1 January 1980 will continue to be able to legally display black and silver number plates to avoid any undue costs of replacement.
Your members may also wish to note that from 1 January it will no longer be permissible to fix a new number plate displaying a Euro symbol. Number plates already fixed to vehicles are unaffected. We will also be introducing a new British Standard for number plates produced from 1 September 2021 which will mean all current style number plates that are first fixed to a vehicle from that date must meet the technical requirements contained in that standard.
Richard
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Thanks for posting the info above Richard. As ever there will no doubt be questions arising from the last paragraph.. when swapping "cherished" plates around from car to car... I guess interpretation may be required..?
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Thanks for the update Richard. At least from the date point of view for earlier style plates the regs are perfectly clear. 
Graham (G4FUJ)
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Yes it seems that tardiness in recognising the "unintended consequence" has left the DVLA with an "unintended legacy" for historic vehicles in the 1973 to 1979 age group 
Richard
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