Talk Morgan Forums Community The Malvern Arms Lockdown

We just had six days in Cornwall, We stayed in a remote cliff top bungalow owned by a friend. We took 95% of our food & drink. The remainder we got from the local farm, and the village shop. So we didn't really interact with anyone. One refuel on the way down, back non stop. No toilet breaks.

Plenty of walking. The locals told us that July & August were insanely busy, everywhere was packed out. Even this week, people were sitting around cafes & pubs without masks and close together as if everything was normal. October is normally quiet in that location, but this year it was significantly busier.

Apparently holiday homes are in great demand as people reconcile to the awful truth that they may be holidaying in the UK for a while.

The key paragraphs for me:

But these cases make the news precisely because they are rare, experts said: More than 38 million people worldwide have been infected with the coronavirus, and as of Monday, fewer than five of those cases have been confirmed by scientists to be reinfections.

“That’s tiny — it’s like a microliter-sized drop in the bucket, compared to the number of cases that have happened all over the world,” said Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at Columbia University in New York.

The inevitable consequence of not going in to lockdown early enough, and coming out too soon, are avoidable deaths and continuing economic damage.

Back in July, on the same day the Australian state of Victoria recorded 723 cases, and the UK recorded 763.

Yesterday, Victoria recorded 1 case and 0 deaths, the UK recorded 15,650 and 136 deaths (43429 total).

Through our inability to take decisive action, we are repeating our mistakes from earlier this year - and we are doing so with the benefit of "2020 Hindsight" and in clear contradiction of the scientific advice from Sage.

But Victoria has been in its second lockdown because of the rate of infections it was experiencing several months ago and they are coming into the warmer spring weather. The UK second outbreak in the autumn/winter was predicted way back in March as the UK entered into the cooler months.

By comparison Victoria has roughly one tenth of the UK population with roughly the same land mass. Population density is a factor in the spread of Covid.

On the whole it is pretty easy for people like me, who are retired, have no debt, sufficient income, no dependants and plenty of interior and outside space to criticise the lack of tough controls. It is a different situation for a family living in a flat with a couple of kids and a mortgage to pay. Decisions need to be made to balance the needs of both groups. I have no idea what the correct approach is to achieve this appropriate balance. The reality is that there is probably no "correct approach".

Spot on

Well I'm confused, though there is nothing new there !
I am in the medium tier at the mo in Surrey and have a holiday booked in Somerset next week. Gowd only knows if we will get away. A week is a long time in Covid UK

To put that into perspective that equates to .5% of the worlds population. The local hospital to me as of yesterday had three Covid patients, which equates to Tier 2, not the apparent 40 million in funds from the Government the council receive for going into Tier 2. I'm going to Southend on sea tomorrow as they are in Tier 1 but still in Essex ....
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Very good 👍 but no need for a Daleks when we have Dr Reiner Fuellmich on the case. Can see the adverts soon enough. Had a test, provided DNA...claim now against your Government, guarantee 50p payout.