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Thank you, good to see that someone recognized that as the web site of a reputable Morgan Dealer and not a fabrication.
Lance
"Fabrication"? I Can't recall anyone claiming "fabrication". The word I used was conjecture: "A conjecture is a proposition that is unproven but is thought to be true and has not been disproven." And because someone has stated something on a website is proof? If it exists already why post a picture of a Morgan Roadster and not the 'Malvern Roadster'? Simon has already posted that MMC have stated there is a feasibility study being carried out. I would guess that this is therefore a marketing exercise to gauge interest. Oh and you asked for comments. Sorry if it was not what you wanted to read or didn't agree with. We can have different opinions  He has not received his cars yet, so a picture of a trad roadster was used. A secret "marketing exercise to gauge interest", are you kidding! You of course a free to believe anything the factory tells you and wants you to report in this forum. The facts as I know them are that Morgan is in negotioations to ship partially assembled roadster to the US. The engines and transmissions will be installed here and the suggested name (as noted on the Northshore Morgan dealers site) is projected to be the Malvern Roadster. The naming is to distance the car from Morgan. You are free to dissect my statements any way you choose or to blow as much smoke to cloud the issue as you would like. I have no stake in this issue, I have owned my Morgan for over 26 years, have been a fan of the marque for over 40 years. I have no concern over market value of my Morgan as I will never sell mine. Time and disclosure of the facts will prove one of us correct.
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Thank you, good to see that someone recognized that as the web site of a reputable Morgan Dealer and not a fabrication.
Lance
"Fabrication"? I Can't recall anyone claiming "fabrication". The word I used was conjecture: "A conjecture is a proposition that is unproven but is thought to be true and has not been disproven." And because someone has stated something on a website is proof? If it exists already why post a picture of a Morgan Roadster and not the 'Malvern Roadster'? Simon has already posted that MMC have stated there is a feasibility study being carried out. I would guess that this is therefore a marketing exercise to gauge interest. Oh and you asked for comments. Sorry if it was not what you wanted to read or didn't agree with. We can have different opinions He has not received his cars yet, so a picture of a trad roadster was used. A secret "marketing exercise to gauge interest", are you kidding! You of course a free to believe anything the factory tells you and wants you to report in this forum. The facts as I know them are that Morgan is in negotioations to ship partially assembled roadster to the US. The engines and transmissions will be installed here and the suggested name (as noted on the Northshore Morgan dealers site) is projected to be the Malvern Roadster. The naming is to distance the car from Morgan. You are free to dissect my statements any way you choose or to blow as much smoke to cloud the issue as you would like. I have no stake in this issue, I have owned my Morgan for over 26 years, have been a fan of the marque for over 40 years. I have no concern over market value of my Morgan as I will never sell mine. Time and disclosure of the facts will prove one of us correct. Where have I (or anyone else) said anything about a SECRET marketing excercise? Your attempts twice to misquote me doesn't become you, nor do your cheap "factory" jibes! We are not actually in significant disagreement ("In negotiation" vs "Feasibility study") so why you are being so ignorant of that fact or argumentative I have no idea  I hope you keep, and enjoy, your Morgan forever. That is exactly the reason why more cars should be brought into the States, to allow others to enjoy them, and to allow your dealer to earn a living.
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Hi gents, (Lance and BtG in particular) I think what we are witnessing here is a fairly typical example of how a forum discussion can turn a bit sour because of the lack of non verbal communication in the written words? It is so easy to pick up small irritants in written words that were probably not intended or would have been seen in a different context if accompanied by a gesture or a facial expression? As I read it you are actually in agreement and if the conversation had taken place in a bar you would have probably bought eachother drinks. This tension is very rare on TM, so If I may suggest, have a virtual drink and toast to all things Morgan  Cheers J
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thanks JJW I'm well versed in forum debates and often realise that what I'm trying to say doesn't come across clearly so try and ensure I use a few smileys to express my feelings. However I know this doesn't always work. As such I try and be careful that what I'm discussing doesn't contain misquotes which IMHO is either sloppy or for effect. We all tend to hold differing opinions and very rarely are things black and white. As such we can freely debate issues which can be both educational (if at the very least the other opinion may not have been known to us) and entertaining. However you are absolutely correct on t'internet one must be very careful. I have no problem joining you (or Lance) for a virtual drink  ; but I assure you I'm not a lot different in real life and if I have a varying opinion will voice it 
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FWIW, during my first foray to the colonies, I met a gent named Glen Merry - a perfectly OK engineer. But he named his daughter Jolly.........isn't that cruel and unusual punishment?
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I quite agree - maybe it is an attempt to gain history I don't know but you guys and the rest of us in Europe don't seem to do it 
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Interesting that Northshore Sportscars website now has NO reference to the "Malvern Roadster" I wonder why that is?
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Interesting that Northshore Sportscars website now has NO reference to the "Malvern Roadster" I wonder why that is? The Morgan factory got their panties in a twist when this story first went viral. Northshore had jumped the gun by putting the information on their web site and has probably been asked, or more likely told to take it down. To save the moderator some time and energy, all of this is of course speculation, conjecture, or a figment of my imagination. Only time will tell.
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This conversation thread is bordering on Monty Python-esque. All that seems to being argued is whether a decision has been made yet.
Quite simply, and as stated previously, no decision has been made by MMC. If you anyone wishes to be pedantic, the only word missing from the previous sentence is 'yet'; however, that is a matter of semantics. Also, 'yet' does not imply the outcome of the decision.
Were MMC to rush blindly into a possible new partnership, they would be lambasted. If they take their time to review the feasibility (read into that all the commercial implications), they seem to receive the same treatment by certain groups.
I've written what I've heard from the horses mouth; should anyone choose not to believe it, that is their decision. No one is saying it won't happen but equally, to say it will definitely happen, at this point in time, is also incorrect.
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