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that's a bit of a tank, I can just see "Oddjob" stepping out of that one laugh2


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Originally Posted by OZ 4/4
Originally Posted by OZ 4/4
Now here's a nice little power plant that was destined for a Morgan 4/4
2.0ltr Zetec fuel injected crate engine

Sold - US$11,583.00


I must pay more attention to this thread as I almost missed this post.

A lovely engine for a 4/4 but a crazy price.

I bought my 2.0L crate engine in 2018 for about 1200 US Dollars but I already had a Librands manifold so need to add say another 800 USD for that. 2000USD in total tops and I get as much power as that engine up to 5600 RPM. And more torque.

It is true that the last few horses cost a lot more than the first few horses but nevertheless that is still a lot of money to pay if it is for a road car which will spend most of it's time probably below 6000 RPM.

If it is for a race car then I think it will need more power than that to be competitive.

Adding throttle bodies would cost about another 1500 USD or so and would add some more top end power but do nothing for the mid range torque.

Ok, so it has an uprated clutch, special sump, modified water rail, special BDA style cam cover etc but even so ????

As I said, a lovely engine for someone but overpriced. Not sure if that exhaust manifold would fit the 4/4 without a lot of chopping.


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Another classy old girl that should do well. Just not sure about the colour
1934 Rolls Royce 20-25 Sedanca 2 position drophead coupe


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Very pretty. I like the colour scheme (apart from the cream wires and white-wall tyres). it’s very period. One of my friends has a Derby Bentley DHC in the same colours and it looks great.


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Originally Posted by pandy
Very pretty. I like the colour scheme (apart from the cream wires and white-wall tyres). it’s very period. One of my friends has a Derby Bentley DHC in the same colours and it looks great.


NO Sale - Bid to US$ 55,500.00, DNMR (Did Not Meet Reserve)
And the commentary got a bit nasty to boot.....

Here is the last entry:-
I’ve had better cars run over me, and a drophead coupe is a drophead coupe. When you refused to drop the top, you lost our confidence in your faux landaus. Good luck with the cognicenti you’ll find at Amelia. If you ever get over fifty thousand again, you’ll be a lucky fella. Trying to put one over on the Bat community is not the best of ideas. And the shame of it is that we don’t forget very easily. Let us know how much this drophead brings you at Amelia Island.

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Originally Posted by IvorMog
Originally Posted by OZ 4/4
Originally Posted by OZ 4/4
Now here's a nice little power plant that was destined for a Morgan 4/4
2.0ltr Zetec fuel injected crate engine

Sold - US$11,583.00


I must pay more attention to this thread as I almost missed this post.

A lovely engine for a 4/4 but a crazy price.

I bought my 2.0L crate engine in 2018 for about 1200 US Dollars but I already had a Librands manifold so need to add say another 800 USD for that. 2000USD in total tops and I get as much power as that engine up to 5600 RPM. And more torque.

It is true that the last few horses cost a lot more than the first few horses but nevertheless that is still a lot of money to pay if it is for a road car which will spend most of it's time probably below 6000 RPM.

If it is for a race car then I think it will need more power than that to be competitive.

Adding throttle bodies would cost about another 1500 USD or so and would add some more top end power but do nothing for the mid range torque.

Ok, so it has an uprated clutch, special sump, modified water rail, special BDA style cam cover etc but even so ????

As I said, a lovely engine for someone but overpriced. Not sure if that exhaust manifold would fit the 4/4 without a lot of chopping.

Interesting assessment Bob as I also got a bit of a shock at the price.


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Originally Posted by OZ 4/4
Originally Posted by pandy
Very pretty. I like the colour scheme (apart from the cream wires and white-wall tyres). it’s very period. One of my friends has a Derby Bentley DHC in the same colours and it looks great.


NO Sale - Bid to US$ 55,500.00, DNMR (Did Not Meet Reserve)
And the commentary got a bit nasty to boot.....

Here is the last entry:-
I’ve had better cars run over me, and a drophead coupe is a drophead coupe. When you refused to drop the top, you lost our confidence in your faux landaus. Good luck with the cognicenti you’ll find at Amelia. If you ever get over fifty thousand again, you’ll be a lucky fella. Trying to put one over on the Bat community is not the best of ideas. And the shame of it is that we don’t forget very easily. Let us know how much this drophead brings you at Amelia Island.


Crikey. That's pretty bitchy.

To be fair, the description is a little confusing, as the headline describes it as a Sedanca Drophead rather than a Sedanca Coupé, then in the text it is described as having a 3 position soft top (which it has not).

Sedanca means a car that can be open over the drivers head, but hard top over the passengers. A 2 door Sedanca Coupé is what would probably be described nowadays as a Targa. The irate would-be buyer is perhaps not familiar with the Sedanca body style. Some (as in this case) were built to look like a DHC, whilst others (such as Simon Taylor of C&SC's) the hard top over the rear section is clearly just that. The cognoscenti will have no trouble recognising this car for what it is.

Despite the terminological inexactitude, it looks like a decent car. The irate response seems rather over the top.


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Originally Posted by pandy
Originally Posted by OZ 4/4
Originally Posted by pandy
Very pretty. I like the colour scheme (apart from the cream wires and white-wall tyres). it’s very period. One of my friends has a Derby Bentley DHC in the same colours and it looks great.


NO Sale - Bid to US$ 55,500.00, DNMR (Did Not Meet Reserve)
And the commentary got a bit nasty to boot.....

Here is the last entry:-
I’ve had better cars run over me, and a drophead coupe is a drophead coupe. When you refused to drop the top, you lost our confidence in your faux landaus. Good luck with the cognicenti you’ll find at Amelia. If you ever get over fifty thousand again, you’ll be a lucky fella. Trying to put one over on the Bat community is not the best of ideas. And the shame of it is that we don’t forget very easily. Let us know how much this drophead brings you at Amelia Island.


Crikey. That's pretty bitchy.

To be fair, the description is a little confusing, as the headline describes it as a Sedanca Drophead rather than a Sedanca Coupé, then in the text it is described as having a 3 position soft top (which it has not).

Sedanca means a car that can be open over the drivers head, but hard top over the passengers. A 2 door Sedanca Coupé is what would probably be described nowadays as a Targa. The irate would-be buyer is perhaps not familiar with the Sedanca body style. Some (as in this case) were built to look like a DHC, whilst others (such as Simon Taylor of C&SC's) the hard top over the rear section is clearly just that. The cognoscenti will have no trouble recognising this car for what it is.

Despite the terminological inexactitude, it looks like a decent car. The irate response seems rather over the top.

Nice summation Giles, thank you. BaT does get a bit heated on occasions...


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And now for something completely different...
"Duesenberg" 1981 Tribute....


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