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There is an 86 plus * coming up for auction on the 8th. I thought it would be an interesting exercise for the afficionadoes to forecast the price that it reaches in auction. I personally have no idea of real world prices for trad Morgans but I am sure that the experts on here will have. See thisObviously forecasts stop the moment the auction starts. Maybe the winner could be awarded the title of Guru.
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I would think about 26 k looking at the under bonnet and interior
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Yep. Likely 24/25k.. is that a 190bhp one or is it the same engine as the earlier 80’s so 160bhp, think it got more power mid 80’s
My concern would be condition of inner wings and bulkhead as was poorly powder coated from new and most suffer badly in that
Is it still exportable after Brexit or is export duty due as it’s not old enough?
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If the bulkhead and inner wings are still good maybe 28, otherwise 24.
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That's identical looking to my old 1978 +8. I might have to bid! 28 I think. Nick
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Looking at the rust in the engine bay on the bulkhead and the rear chassis member I would budget at least for a bulkhead replacement and inner wings so £22,000 tops.
The level of corrosion viewable in the engine bay area is disturbing and suggests it's been subject to a marine environment to me or lived outside under a cover.
It's in an auction for a reason....I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole tbh when there are some really good examples around right now about the 30k mark.
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Looking at the rust in the engine bay on the bulkhead and the rear chassis member I would budget at least for a bulkhead replacement and inner wings so £22,000 tops.
The level of corrosion viewable in the engine bay area is disturbing and suggests it's been subject to a marine environment to me or lived outside under a cover.
It's in an auction for a reason....I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole tbh when there are some really good examples around right now about the 30k mark.
A bit like our house when we bought it: "It took longer than I thought it would and eventually cost more than we had".
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Looking at the rust in the engine bay on the bulkhead and the rear chassis member I would budget at least for a bulkhead replacement and inner wings so £22,000 tops.
The level of corrosion viewable in the engine bay area is disturbing and suggests it's been subject to a marine environment to me or lived outside under a cover.
It's in an auction for a reason....I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole tbh when there are some really good examples around right now about the 30k mark.
A bit like our house when we bought it: "It took longer than I thought it would and eventually cost more than we had". Exactly that sort of thing, it's a 35 year old car that's been polished but not much else looking under the bonnet and rear chassis member rusting, it just looks unloved to me..
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Interesting thinking on the monetary evaluation of old +8`s or indeed any Classics and as Richard points out there will be many out there polished to perfection and hiding all measures of bodge such as chicken wire and filler in areas of structural importance if when one may be unfortunate enough to be really dependant on the crash worthiness of it all...? All of which on Morgans at least being of a relatively simple chassis construction there it is perhaps more difficult to hide bodge than in vehicles of much more complex monocoque construction and which can rot from the inside outward within their many closed cavities, due to condensation or perhaps worse still, fording streams, and flood damage, the latter being ever more common in recent years. For the uninitiated there is one book which I have that illustrates details of the after effects of Trad Morgan corrosion happy to dig it out if the title/author might be of interest. My own Morgan having had the benefit of Kevin`s strip down and rebuild to concours standard with under 10k miles on the clock at the time it`s chassis bulkheads and much else still gleaming in high gloss two pack paint all be it with under 35K miles on the clock seems to have greatly benefited as the result of that bit of extra care and attention to detail which Kevin invested in it. However it`s paintwork displays a degree of usage in my ownership, thus not polished to perfection but more than good enough for me, and in some way provides comfort to perfectionists at car events given it gives them something to point at and tut tut over...(-: Bottom line, is that it would not take a great deal of effort to bring it back up to concours standard today..it`s value today... I could only guess at.. Care to have a go at a realistic possible market value..? Don`t worry about hurting my feelings... https://www.tm-img.com/image/xWg0Hhttps://www.tm-img.com/image/xWexShttps://www.tm-img.com/image/xWkCO 
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