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The battery in my 2015 4/4 has expired, terminally as one might say. I removed the clamps and tried to recharge it but it does not get up to full juice. I decided to remove it and obtain a replacement. It was only then that I noticed that this battery, a Banner Uni Bull, is unusual in having two positives and two negatives. The front set, to which the clamps are attached, are cylindrical with chopped sides; but the clamps are circular and would fit on the other side, where the posts are regularly cylindrical. That would not work, however, because Pos and Neg would be on the wrong sides for the clamps.
I do not need to add, “Stop me if I am boring you” because I am boring myself. But I need a solution.
I live in France and drove to two car-stuff shops, Feu Vert and Vidalauto. Men in each of these looked at the battery, tapped my registration into their computers and then looked bewildered and said that they were unable to help.
I drove home, disgruntled as well as bewildered, and did some Googling. I found a site offering batteries supposedly suitable for a 2015 4/4 One of these is a Banner Power Bull. It is evidently not identical to mine, apart from the name. It seems to have only one set of posts and it is shorter (207mm instead of 240). Two crucial things: it has the same width (175mm), so would fit into the cradle, and Pos/Neg are in the correct places. And the price is right - with free delivery.
Have I missed something or is this the one to go for? Thanks in advance for advice.
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You do not need two sets of terminals. Banner uni bulls were manufactured with 2 sets of terminals purely to enable a universal fit, depending on exactly where your positive and negative leads were situated. So as long as your replacement battery is the correct physical and electrical size, you only need to make sure that it has positive and negative terminals in the correct position for your vehicle and that the terminals are the right shape for your connections.
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It was only then that I noticed that this battery, a Banner Uni Bull, is unusual in having two positives and two negatives.....Have I missed something or is this the one to go for?
I find this can happen after consuming 3 Pints (1.7048 litres) 
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You do not need two sets of terminals. Banner uni bulls were manufactured with 2 sets of terminals purely to enable a universal fit, depending on exactly where your positive and negative leads were situated. So as long as your replacement battery is the correct physical and electrical size, you only need to make sure that it has positive and negative terminals in the correct position for your vehicle and that the terminals are the right shape for your connections. That is what I thought. Thanks very much for the confirmation.
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It was only then that I noticed that this battery, a Banner Uni Bull, is unusual in having two positives and two negatives.....Have I missed something or is this the one to go for?
I find this can happen after consuming 3 Pints (1.7048 litres)  That would be three pints of Fuller's ESB. After two, you cannot remember where you live, and after three you cannot remember your name. I never got further than that.
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Ah ESB. I worked next to the Hogarth roundabout, the smell of the brewing was lovely.
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One of my favourite brews  Though I guess I'm a little more resistant to its effects 
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One of my favourite brews  Though I guess I'm a little more resistant to its effects  Gosh. What happens after four or five pints?
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Does anyone remember barley wine ? (came in gold cans IIRC), excellent stuff. About the same colour and consistency as the rose-hip syrup that was administered by the spoonful "when I were a lad".
Peter 2009 3-litre Roadster "Ivor", royal ivory / green
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Every adolescent male should make at least one visit to the Cider Bar in Newton Abbot to understand scrumpy. https://www.facebook.com/yeoldeciderbar/Conveniently the hospital was across the road but is now probably closed.
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