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Originally Posted by howard
I wont say anything more after this post because the subject is a sensitive one and not really for discussion here. But you comment "There will never be "integration" if all people can see is "difference"." - just what is Black History month emphasising but a difference? A different history for each and every ethnicity?

Integration requires that people dont see any difference at all. Not seperate histories or seperat cultures. Black history month is IMO racist


It is recognising that alongside the history that has been taught traditionally for centuries, there is another historical timeline running alongside that has been hidden and should be celebrated as well.

The fact that you consider that racist, is exactly the reason why we should have it.

And like you, that's my last word on the topic. I avoid the Soap Box for a reason.


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Isn't it a joy that bronze statues are all exactly the same hue.


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The only thing that I object to is the cherry picking of parts of history to suit certain agendas. Had the British Empire been the first, then maybe there would be some merit in anal gazing, but it was obviously not.

History is littered with atrocities, and trying to rewrite or ignore any of it is to fail future generations.

Start with statues, then burn the books. Isn't that how it goes?


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Read 1984. We seem to have arrived at that point and are erasing history we don't like.


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Surely the whole point about Black History Month is that we are reversing the erasing of history? Before, we never used to really study the origins and culture of black people. Most of us knew practically nothing about the African civilisations that pre-dated colonisation by the whites.

And of course the same is true for the Americas, the far east and the Indian sub-continent - Did you know India for example was the richest country in the world for over 1700 years until the British turned up? Or that the Incan civilisation had an extremely advanced civil service?

I reckon it's a good thing that thanks to initiatives like BHM, we can learn a bit more about the wider history of the world beyond just the bits that the white colonials did.


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Originally Posted by John V6
Read 1984. We seem to have arrived at that point and are erasing history we don't like.


I THINK we did 1984 as part of O Level English Lit. That would have been in 1966 ish. We also did Animal Farm which I remember much better, and Henry V Part two. Doing Part two seemed barmy to me.

But then in History we did the Austro-Hungarian Empire, but stopped at 1914. For me, starting at 1914 would have been more engaging and interesting.


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I remember O-level "history" starting at 1919 with the League of Nations. Would have preferred something a bit earlier than that really!

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" History is more or less bunk. It's tradition. We don't want tradition. We want to live in the present and the only history that is worth a tinker's dam is the history we make today." Henry Ford

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History is made by the winners.


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Originally Posted by BobtheTrain
History is made by the winners.

True dat.

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