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Lovely creation...with all that power/speed, it ups the aquaplaning risk a notch or two....

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Wonderful workmanship of the details. I really like it. And I bet Morgan we won't get that impressive with the new MTW.


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Originally Posted by JMD
Lovely creation...with all that power/speed, it ups the aquaplaning risk a notch or two....
There is more weight over the back wheel so hopefully the aquaplaning risk is reduced?


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Originally Posted by Bunny
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Lovely creation...with all that power/speed, it ups the aquaplaning risk a notch or two....
There is more weight over the back wheel so hopefully the aquaplaning risk is reduced?

Would that make it more likely to swap ends when braking?


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Originally Posted by CraigL
Has Peter started selling any of the Ace 2.0 cars yet?


Yes, the purchaser of the ACE in this driving video has, in his words, "Been watching and re-watching - a few times now - so cool..." as he anticipates his upcoming delivery. He has also been a long time owner of an M3W with 30k+ miles; not sure what his future plans are for the M3W though.

Of the initial 6 new ACE frames, two are now built, and several chassis available for assembly into bespoke ACEs.



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Originally Posted by PaulV
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Lovely creation...with all that power/speed, it ups the aquaplaning risk a notch or two....
There is more weight over the back wheel so hopefully the aquaplaning risk is reduced?

Would that make it more likely to swap ends when braking?
Well, actually it's mid engined so should have good balance?


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I would think that the Ace 2.0 weight, balance and performance would be very similar to the Grinnall Scorpion K1200RS I had some time ago. That was all excellent, as long as it was nice and dry. I did need to be treated with some respect if the road was at all damp, let alone wet. The Ace 2.0 does have narrower front tyres, so that may improve things, the back wheel looks pretty wide. The Scorpion had a 205 section back wheel and about 140 bhp to put through it.

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Originally Posted by Jens
Wonderful workmanship of the details. I really like it. And I bet Morgan we won't get that impressive with the new MTW.


Probably because the new MTW will be a production car, like the previous version, legal for sale across the world and therefore needs to sell multiples at a cost effective production price to make money....bespoke high quality workmanship/details cost...would be interesting to see the sales price of the Ace.

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Originally Posted by planenut
The Ace 2.0 does have narrower front tires, so that may improve things, the back wheel looks pretty wide.


The new ACE wears true radial front tires at 5.00R16 front and 195R16 rear (same rear as the original ACEs).

Weighting is basically 50/50 but that depends on the driver really.

Honda says the GL1800 is 125hp stock, and it's very much no longer a stock engine; it would be fun to see a Dyno!

I've got some more pics I could post too...

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Originally Posted by PaulV
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There is more weight over the back wheel so hopefully the aquaplaning risk is reduced?

Would that make it more likely to swap ends when braking?


Less actually; the more weight on the rear wheel, the more is left to push it down through the water film when weight is transferred forward by deceleration.

But for overturn resistance, more weight on the front the better.

The crux of the matter is that no matter where the CG is, all lateral weight transfer during cornering is at the front, because the single rear wheel cannot resist overturning at all.

Therefore the more weight that's at the front to start with, the greater the lateral acceleration needed to completely unweight the inside wheel.

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