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TBM #722375 23/10/21 11:58 AM
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Channel 4 ran a programme at 10.00 last Monday about the first black policeman in South Yorkshire Police.

I didn't realise until we started watching it that this guy lives at the end of our road. He's a really nice guy, now retired with grown up kids, but the stories he tells about joining up and how he was treated by the police at that time is eye opening. Especially viewed through the lens of 2021. His wife was a nurse and his two kids were the only non-whites in the local school.

It's worth a look on C4 catch up.


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I'll have a look at that. If you're into novels, 'Darktown' by Thomas Mullen is a very eye-opening portrayal about what was like for the first black police officers in Atlanta post WW2.


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Black History Month might be over, but it's always a good idea to learn parts of our history that others might prefer to gloss over. Here's a fascinating article about the experience of black American soldiers in England during WW2.

In 1943 black American soldiers faced off with white American Military police during World War II on British soil. Yes, you read correctly, black American soldiers had to fight their own white American soldiers, while in England, where they were fighting for the world.

Why? Because the English town of Bamber Bridge in Lancashire was not segregated so they treated the black soldiers like all other races. Blacks were free to eat, drink anywhere, BUT back in America segregation of blacks and whites still existed. So essentially the American army went to someone else’s country and demanded they adopted America’s racist practices.

The folks in Lancashire were like hell no we like the black soldiers in fact during that time the American created Jitterbug dance was popular and the British women were eager to learn it from the black soldiers. The fondness for the black American soldiers was also supported by those famous essays written by George Orwell who stated that the black American soldiers had the best manners of all the American troops.

So when the American Military police found out that their own black American soldiers were drinking at the same pubs as white people they went in to arrest them. The people in the town got mad about the treatment of the black soldiers and decided to then turn their pubs into “BLACKS ONLY DRINKING PUBS” the very opposite of what was taking place in America with their WHITES ONLY businesses.

Of course this pissed off the American military so guns went blazing, and when word spread back at camp that black soldiers had been shot, scores of men formed a crowd, some carrying rifles and by midnight more American military police arrived with a machine gun-equipped vehicle, so the black soldiers had no choice but to get rifles from British stores while others barricaded themselves back on base, so now it was American white soldiers versus American black soldiers. Several soldiers died including 17 black American soldiers.

Back in America the battle was hushed up because they didn’t want the country to find out that they were fighting their own soldiers which would anger the black population and weaken the moralel in the country.

You may read about the ill treatment of black American soldiers by their own army in the book FORGOTTEN.
https://theconversation.com/black-troops-were-welcome-in...


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It's a pretty well known local piece of WW2 Lancashire history, like the 1944 Freckleton air disaster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freckleton_air_disaster both incidents probably not so well known outside the county, Like the Lancashire Cotton Famine of 1860 to 65, that devastated local communities, they rarely get much of a mention in the history books. From good stock those Lancashire folk.

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The same story is part of one of Nevil Shute's books, the Chequer Board, written in 1947.


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