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What are these garden tool things you speak of ?


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Originally Posted by Alistair
What are these garden tool things you speak of ?


Think of them as an alternative supply of pistons and crankshafts. 15 of them in our case.


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Yes I find the battery version of the tools much more convenient. My drive was is over 75metres long so to use my blower I had 3 25M extension cords and still couldn't reach the end. The other thing I am going to love about the battery blower is taking it to the green waste with my trailer and then blowing the trailer clean before coming home.

I was going to go either Still or EGO and ended up with EGO.

My mum has a very small lawn and a corded lawnmower. But being very old she wants me to go over and mow it. I find the cord a real pain and I am worried I will run over it. I wish she had bought a battery mower but she would have bought the cheapest thing the shop had at the time.

Reading these replies and thinking about it I can afford to replace the batteries but hopefully will not have to for a very long time, but if I do and it works out much more than paying for petrol it is probably worth it for the convenience.

At the moment if I needed a new car I would consider the Tesla 3 being about the only decent option in Australia, VW will not sell us any as they want them all to help offset the CO2 tax and get the average for the fleet down, there is no benefit for them to sell us them so they probably never will until the European market is saturated. I assume that is the case for other manufacturers so I doubt we will get many options in Australia for a while, so I am hoping my current Skoda Octavia lasts another 5 years or more. But the odd article I see on battery cars still has me wondering, like Steve. Recently there was a guy who blew up his 2013 Tesla because it needed $22,000USD ($30,000AUD) worth of batteries. In 8 years of driving I have done 150,000km and used less than $15,000AUD of petrol. But am I comparing the wrong thing? Should I be comparing $15,000 of petrol to $6,000 of electricity (at 16kwh per 100km which the local Tesla shop told me is the economy) giving me a saving of $9,000 over 8 years plus servicing so about $15K to 20K depending on the cost of additional repairs. And then compare $30,000 worth of batteries against a $1000 petrol tank if either need replacing?

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This is my garden tiller...
https://www.einhell.co.uk/shop/en-uk/ge-cr-30-li-solo.html

I've had a Tesla M3LR for 7 months and 5,300 miles.
Ignoring the "green" issues, it is one hell of a quick "sports saloon". I swapped a Mercedes C63 for it: a wonderful V8 in an uninspired chassis and a serious drinking habit.
The Tesla does a realistic 270 miles using 80% of the available energy. 0 to 60 in 3.3 seconds, if you have the Performance Upgrade, an extra £1500.
In the UK it costs about 7p/mile, including fuel, servicing and road tax.
The financial benefit depends on fuel and tax costs in your country.

The Plus 8 costs about £1.50 a mile for much the same performance.

In the UK Tesla battery warranty is 8 years or 120,000 miles, whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period.
The "2013 destruction" was a publicity stunt. Batteries are expensive, but unless physically damaged they are repairable, just like ICE engines.


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I'm rather liking the Mercedes EQXX concept, 1000Km range, 6m/KWh efficiency. Pretty sure I wouldn't be able to afford one though.

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Originally Posted by ChrisConvertible
But am I comparing the wrong thing?


Err, yes. It's not about the money.


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Agreed, it's about the PR coverage as the EQ-S sank like a stone, whoops.

The front looks like a Kia EV6?


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Originally Posted by ChrisConvertible
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I was going to go either Still or EGO and ended up with EGO.


I bought an EGO battery strimmer recently as it's such a drama using my Kawasaki petrol thing.... Whilst it only runs for 30 minutes or so, it's good at what it does and is so much lighter and easier to handle than the petrol equivalent.

In terms of battery degradation, most batteries (iPhones, laptops etc) should easily last 1,000 full cycles of charging. EV's, it is said, should last 1,500 cycles because of more advanced battery management. In a Tesla that's around 450,000 miles - even if you halved that estimate, it's likely the batteries will outlast the body.


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Originally Posted by Peter J


Very nice.

Originally Posted by Peter J

I've had a Tesla M3LR for 7 months and 5,300 miles.
Ignoring the "green" issues, it is one hell of a quick "sports saloon". I swapped a Mercedes C63 for it: a wonderful V8 in an uninspired chassis and a serious drinking habit.
The Tesla does a realistic 270 miles using 80% of the available energy. 0 to 60 in 3.3 seconds, if you have the Performance Upgrade, an extra £1500.
In the UK it costs about 7p/mile, including fuel, servicing and road tax.
The financial benefit depends on fuel and tax costs in your country.

The Plus 8 costs about £1.50 a mile for much the same performance.


That is a big difference. At 6L/100km and $1.60 for 98 my petrol car is$9.60 per 100km for petrol, a Tesla at 16Wkh per 100km and 23cents per Kwh is $3.68. So a Tesla 3 times less, ignoring road taxes because here they are the same and ignoring servicing as well but the Tesla should be a lot cheaper making the difference even more. Although last time I talked to a Tesla dealer he tried to talk me into the $3000 fixed price servicing for 3 years which would make it a lot more than what I have paid for servicing a petrol car.


Originally Posted by Neilda

I bought an EGO battery strimmer recently as it's such a drama using my Kawasaki petrol thing.... Whilst it only runs for 30 minutes or so, it's good at what it does and is so much lighter and easier to handle than the petrol equivalent.


Yes I am finding the EGO gear very good. I took my lawn mower over to my dads place to mow the grass, easy to get in and out of the car and did a good job of mowing. Good news is he came home from hospital after his stroke and is nearly fully recovered.

Originally Posted by Peter J
In the UK Tesla battery warranty is 8 years or 120,000 miles, whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period.
The "2013 destruction" was a publicity stunt. Batteries are expensive, but unless physically damaged they are repairable, just like ICE engines.



Originally Posted by Neilda

In terms of battery degradation, most batteries (iPhones, laptops etc) should easily last 1,000 full cycles of charging. EV's, it is said, should last 1,500 cycles because of more advanced battery management. In a Tesla that's around 450,000 miles - even if you halved that estimate, it's likely the batteries will outlast the body.


I knew it was a publicity stunt and I think that possibly the motivation is the income from views was going to be more than the car was worth as it was.

OK, so if the battery could last 450,000 miles and has a 8 year/120,000mile warranty there really is no issue about its life. Maybe not outlast the metal of the body here as nothing rusts that fast where I live, but certainly outlast the door rubbers that don't last very long here at all.

Back to the lawnmower, whipper snipper and the blower. If I can get 1000 full cycles and only use one a week looking after my place, my sons place, mum's place and dad's place that is about 20 years. That is much better than the 5 years the salesman told me to expect, I guess 5 years is the lifetime if I was mowing etc. 5 days a week as a professional gardener.

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Never mind the EV stuff:- That is good news on your Dad Chris thumbs


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