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Well if they have instructed you NOT to drive it MMC is duty bound to trailer it to the factory or more likely your local dealer will pick it up to complete the work. God help anyone currently on tour then... We were on a Hopmog event when one of our members got the message. He tried to arrange for the AA to trailer it home, but was told "it's not a breakdown". He ended up having to pay to get it back. Will MMC pay for that............ I imagine a lot will rest on whether they contacted MMC or their dealer and explained their predicament. If they decided independently I would think it unlikely, but who knows as the company are handling this all very professionally so far.
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I think its time that those of us who are experienced in the rebuild and repair of Morgan cars especially rebuilt braking systems could offer our services to get MMC and our MSCC owners out of this issue, perhaps a number of us could work nights at the dealers to get the cars fixed for our members. These times are when MMC and our dealers need us more than ever. As much as the sentiment is admirable and should be applauded, I think that would be an absolute nightmare for the dealers. Also if I was a CX owner, I would want the work completed by an formally acredited and certificated brake specialist. Personally, as much as I'm happy to replace lines, slaves, master etc on my Trad, the canbus/ECU/black box fitted modern cars would be a bridge too far. Peter's recent experience with his brake lights show the complexity of these systems and what can go wrong. Well put, I would be of the same opinion, I would want the remedial work completed by a factory accredited facility.
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As predicted, See response from Heritage insurance.
“ The insurers have advised that you should not drive the vehicle as you are aware of a safety recall which could bring its road worthiness into question. If you were to continue to drive the vehicle and this fault caused an accident, you would be in breach of the policy terms and conditions and risk not being insured for the event. They have advised you would be covered to drive your vehicle to a pre booked safety recall appointment only until the issue has been rectified. Please don’t hesitate to contact me should you require any further advice.” Mike
Mike 1982 4/4 1999 +4 2004 Roadster S1 2010 Roadster S2 2021 Plus 6
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Well if they have instructed you NOT to drive it MMC is duty bound to trailer it to the factory or more likely your local dealer will pick it up to complete the work. God help anyone currently on tour then... We were on a Hopmog event when one of our members got the message. He tried to arrange for the AA to trailer it home, but was told "it's not a breakdown". He ended up having to pay to get it back. Will MMC pay for that............ I imagine a lot will rest on whether they contacted MMC or their dealer and explained their predicament. If they decided independently I would think it unlikely, but who knows as the company are handling this all very professionally so far. They did seek advice from their dealer.
Regards Alan AP08 MOG 2016 Plus 4 GDi - Mazda Soul Red Metallic
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Well if they have instructed you NOT to drive it MMC is duty bound to trailer it to the factory or more likely your local dealer will pick it up to complete the work. God help anyone currently on tour then... We were on a Hopmog event when one of our members got the message. He tried to arrange for the AA to trailer it home, but was told "it's not a breakdown". He ended up having to pay to get it back. Will MMC pay for that............ I imagine a lot will rest on whether they contacted MMC or their dealer and explained their predicament. If they decided independently I would think it unlikely, but who knows as the company are handling this all very professionally so far. They did seek advice from their dealer. I wish them luck with a claim and a speedy rectification before the summer slips away.
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Well if they have instructed you NOT to drive it MMC is duty bound to trailer it to the factory or more likely your local dealer will pick it up to complete the work. God help anyone currently on tour then... We were on a Hopmog event when one of our members got the message. He tried to arrange for the AA to trailer it home, but was told "it's not a breakdown". He ended up having to pay to get it back. Will MMC pay for that............ I imagine a lot will rest on whether they contacted MMC or their dealer and explained their predicament. If they decided independently I would think it unlikely, but who knows as the company are handling this all very professionally so far. They did seek advice from their dealer. One would assume the discussion on reimbursement was had with the dealer at the time. I'd have probably asked for written confirmation before I arranged collection. I would have thought it would have been easier/cheaper/quicker to get the car recovered directly to the dealer, and then arrange transport home from there.
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I was going to test drive a PlusSix on Saturday, no longer. That's just God telling you to keep Tarka..
Steve
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Brakes are safety critical BUT it seems from one failure and a couple of others where the pedal has gone soft the reaction from MMC is to advise not to drive any CX cars at all, rather than suggest a visual inspection for fluid level or leaks first by the owner! Knee jerk reaction? Are they shooting themselves in the foot here, as logistics of trailering every car to a dealer is mind boggling.
And then we have insurance companies and DV agency intimating it would be ok just to drive it to get it repaired. A direct conflict with MMC’s advice. The master cylinder has a batch number on it (LOTE No.****)…is it maybe a particular batch only that is affected. Either way, there will be a good proportion of owners who will now insist on trailering for repairs even if it turns out to be not as bad as expected. I expected by today to see the results of yesterday’s dealer meeting and details of remedial action…but it seems to have gone quiet!
Doug 2011 Plus 4 in Rich Maroon
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I was going to test drive a PlusSix on Saturday, no longer. That's just God telling you to keep Tarka.. Frying pans and fire came to mind!
Doug 2011 Plus 4 in Rich Maroon
1972 750 “ComDom” sprinter 1958 Triton 650 1992 Triumph Trophy 900
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I'd imagine that the dealer network is close to meltdown at the moment!!! There aren't very many of them nowadays for various reasons.....(!) Most are pretty small, oldschool operations, who are busy servicing their usual client base and are busy enough to not need a massive CX brake recall. They can't afford to turn away regular work and they can't not do the recall work. I'd have thought that the factory will have to step in do the lions share of the work.
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