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Just Getting Started
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I’ve thought about handing back the car, it’s been in my possession 17 months and 37 weeks of which 4 with the dealer and the rest at the factory for a raft of repairs and now the clock is ticking again, and I still has a few jobs to be done.
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I think sadly this is going to be a very bad for MMC. They decided to join the big boys driven by venture capital but they may have damaged the brand by this. We all need to hope they fix it fast & definitely
JohnV6 2022 CX Plus Four 2025 MG ZS EV aka Trigger
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Isn’t the fix a new branded brake master cylinder which an existing manufacturer uses so spares in future are available and is tried and tested? Maybe a trip to a motor factors and fining the closest match then modify to fit?
That would be the quick and simple solution if it’s the case of a new master cylinder rather than seals… or would type approval prevent that?
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It’s not just a Master Cylinder, it’s also the Brake Booster,……So the pedal box has to lineup with the booster and the booster and pin has to match the depth of the master cylinder and then I would imagine type approval would be needed. But I could be wrong.🤯
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I understood from one dealer the brakes are unique to Morgan. Very probably true. The CX brake servo and master cylinder are made by this company... Iruna Brakes Pvt Ltd of Chennai, India. They have been making brakes since 2013. Which demented idiot in Malvern made that call? I spent 20 years trying to source chemicals from India. It is not something for the faint hearted. Yes, they can be cheap...and good... but there are collateral issues, mostly to do with consistency! The Indians are really good at providing samples that are really excellent, but then things change. Unless and until MMC changes their supplier they won't sell many more CX cars.... This is going to cost them dear.
Peter, 66, 2016 Porsche Boxster S No longer driving Tarka, the 2014 Plus 8...
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If you are selling a premium product and asking for a premium price then use premium parts.
Such a significant part would indicate the risk of selection of a replacement and approval, that would be a delay that Morgan have no control over and so no date being shared. I doubt the factory is enjoying this and looking to cause delay.
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You CX boys and girls have my utmost sympathy, this is pretty poor penny pinching if what I read is true on here.
I really hope MMC get this right this time as their future is very much hanging on their correct and timely response.
No more "they all do that Sir" at this place in the market, these new customers expect quite rightly for a car that works, they have transitioned from enthusiastic amateurs to professional car producers with these prices and need to catch up in certain areas.
Someone should be in for a monumental arse kicking over this and the still unresolved radiator failure issues, I believe the Plus Six first appeared in 2019 so three years ago now.
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Brake company was formed in Spain in 1958. Indian factory set up in 2013. They appear to supply some High Profile companies.
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I personally feel that the callipers may have faults, as we know the first car’s ( mine included ) had to have the callipers turned upside down to stop the squeal, mine was also only biting more on the floating side, when the factory investigated it had bents pins that hold the pads, plus the floating mechanism isn’t the best. And It still bites more on the floating side.
Has anyone in the Plus Four world had the ABS working, I’ve had to do a few emergency stops ( Deer/Pheasants - which can really ruin a windscreen) and no machine gun going off.
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Brake company was formed in Spain in 1958. Indian factory set up in 2013. They appear to supply some High Profile companies. Agree brake company Iruna is Spanish but the master cylinder on my friend’s plus four is also stamped made in CEE, which I believe to be central and eastern europe, so takes in eastern bloc and Baltic state companies but wouldn’t have thought it included India?
Doug 2011 Plus 4 in Rich Maroon
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