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Peter J #743871 07/06/22 12:12 PM
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Steve,

If you think the CX cars are soulless drive a Tesla!!

Tom at Williams is still trying to isolate the cause of the fault: it seems there is a control module that they re-programmed last time and that will not always re-program. They will fit another module and program it, and then it is a matter of "wait and see" as it is not possible to find out why the control module generates these faults.

This is the future of modern cars? I do hope not.


Peter,
66, 2016 Porsche Boxster S
No longer driving Tarka, the 2014 Plus 8...

Peter J #743879 07/06/22 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter J
This is the future of modern cars? I do hope not.

Too late Peter, it's already here! frown


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Originally Posted by Graham, G4FUJ
Originally Posted by Peter J
This is the future of modern cars? I do hope not.

Too late Peter, it's already here! frown


Graham. I’m not sure if I like it! oldgit

I’m very glad that I am;

a. Retired
and b. Living away from the rat race.

Bud
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Simon,
I am not enamoured of all the modern electronics either.
My everyday commutacar, all 95 bhp of it, has totally unnecessary electronic systems such as traction and stability control, hill start (a real PITA) and numerous other "aids".
I'm with Colin, aka Spanner Juggler, when it comes to moderating right foot smile


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Peter J #743918 07/06/22 07:20 PM
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I absolutely loathe the hill start on my abarth. Messes up a proper hill start completely.
Nick

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I gave a trad Plus8 2002. Love it. Stepped up from a ‘93 4/4 and learned the difference in torque input. A few nice rear end twitches that induced smiles.
When the CX cars were launched I wa# thinking of getting one. Still not test driven though. I held back waiting for the inevitable typically Morgan glitches to get found by owners and sorted!
Glad I did!
Will I take plunge when (if) the cars get sorted? I don’t know. I’d miss the V8 . Will the ride be smoother? Less hands on as age creeps on ( mine). IF I do then it will likely be my last Morgan
With the prospective timescale for the current recall there is no urgency to test.
Also. Spend ££££ on new CX or a fraction of that on the Plus8?
I’ve missed the miles over Covid and starting to settle back into adding miles and smiles again.
Off out this afternoon to Oxwich on Gower. Park in the hotel ( free), Walk the dog along the beach, soft drink ( maybe sandwich) in the hotel garden taking in the stunning view across the bay......

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Peter J #744876 16/06/22 05:24 PM
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There will be a few plus fours and sixes for sale after this latest debacle Phill, but I have to say the plus six is the only car that would tempt me back to Mog ownership Morgan have made a cracking car and best finished to date even with the issues.

Peter J #744961 17/06/22 12:36 PM
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having the manual +Four, I would advise to buy the automatic, that really suits the engine


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If you haven't already done so, see if your retailer will give you a car over night or better yet rent one for the weekend.

I was very much in the same boat as you in that I was wanting to move to a CX but felt unsure. While I am in a Trad and not an Aero, the musings you have stated were much the same.

I've not fully decided on if a CX will one day grace my garage but the draw to one has diminished slightly. My car had massive suspension issues and was feeling a bit 'old' for being 6 years old. I then finally got back to my main retailer and had all that sorted so the love is back.

However, the idea of more cabin room, spec'ing a car again etc still lingers.

I echo all that has been said about the CX within this and other threads. It's a fantastic car yet has it's flaw. One very odd one that sticks out was the constant running of the radiator fans which came on in full force within mins of driving. It's all I could hear which took away from the experience. The other was the duality of its character. The car is so much better composed than my car and begged to be pushed but doing so felt strange. And with so much power I felt I was constantly wanting to push it. Yet the other part of me wanted to settle down and drive it as I do my Trad. I appreciate this probably isn't translating well but in short, I walked away scratching my head lol.

Back to the long test drive. If I were to order one, I would pony up for a weekend rental to give me time to fully live with it. I backed away from contemplating a build based on a short drive which turned me off the car but something in the back of my head lingers and questions if I perhaps shouldn't judge it after a short experience.

Lastly, if you are going down the pre-owned route, do brush up on all the minor upgrades in regards to the top, seals etc. I recall Williams had two Plus Fours that were built within months of each other and another when the Plus Four just launched. The difference in door and top seals between all three were significant. The oldest having random cuts of rubber, the middle with a set-up looking a tad more polished and the third having moulded bespoke seals. I'll try and dig out the pics I took if they are of interest.

Good luck

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They are some details added on the latest plus four an plus six ,but
In the same time the price increased from 94000 euros to 125000 euros for the plus six and from 94000 euros to 104000 euros for the plus four.
I dont know if this worth that increase of price. You can find
a 3 years plus six or 2 years plus four at a better price.For info the radiator leak is annoing but you can drive as it is only few drops leaking.

We will see later if the master cylinder change will improve the braking.

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