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I’m disappointed to read comments made by both owners and non-owners of the CX cars on the current problems.
Over the years I have been fortunate enough to own Morgans from a 1939 4/4 through to our present First Edition Plus Six – one of the first 50 cars. We had a 2017/18 Plus 4 automatic (conversion by Vittese) along with the Plus Six. The Plus 4 was a delight to drive but when compared with the Plus Six it was not even on the same page. When I collected the P6 on arrival and drove on the expressway I could not believe it was a Morgan! The handling and ride was so improved. With the 2018 Plus4 after 100 miles of driving and I was well shaken and ready for a rest, whereas in the P6 I can drive 300 miles and be ready to go out for the evening.
Yes I knew from day One that the brakes were soft and rather suspect, and this replacement is only doing what I would have done myself
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And yes I know that the suspension springs and dampers are quietly failing and the ride height dropping such that we drag on bumps in the road. And that I’m about to replace them with new coil over damper units from SSL
All this will only go to make a very good Morgan into an incredible Morgan!
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With no offence intended to the beleagured CX owners, I commend this video to them: https://youtu.be/byQIPdHMpjcIf you're not into Country music and/or have not seen the video, watch and sing along, substituting "Achy breaky brakes" (skipping all the ads...).
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I’m disappointed to read comments made by both owners and non-owners of the CX cars on the current problems.
Over the years I have been fortunate enough to own Morgans from a 1939 4/4 through to our present First Edition Plus Six – one of the first 50 cars. We had a 2017/18 Plus 4 automatic (conversion by Vittese) along with the Plus Six. The Plus 4 was a delight to drive but when compared with the Plus Six it was not even on the same page. When I collected the P6 on arrival and drove on the expressway I could not believe it was a Morgan! The handling and ride was so improved. With the 2018 Plus4 after 100 miles of driving and I was well shaken and ready for a rest, whereas in the P6 I can drive 300 miles and be ready to go out for the evening.
Yes I knew from day One that the brakes were soft and rather suspect, and this replacement is only doing what I would have done myself
.
And yes I know that the suspension springs and dampers are quietly failing and the ride height dropping such that we drag on bumps in the road. And that I’m about to replace them with new coil over damper units from SSL
All this will only go to make a very good Morgan into an incredible Morgan!
I haven’t
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I’m disappointed to read comments made by both owners and non-owners of the CX cars on the current problems.
Over the years I have been fortunate enough to own Morgans from a 1939 4/4 through to our present First Edition Plus Six – one of the first 50 cars. We had a 2017/18 Plus 4 automatic (conversion by Vittese) along with the Plus Six. The Plus 4 was a delight to drive but when compared with the Plus Six it was not even on the same page. When I collected the P6 on arrival and drove on the expressway I could not believe it was a Morgan! The handling and ride was so improved. With the 2018 Plus4 after 100 miles of driving and I was well shaken and ready for a rest, whereas in the P6 I can drive 300 miles and be ready to go out for the evening.
Yes I knew from day One that the brakes were soft and rather suspect, and this replacement is only doing what I would have done myself
.
And yes I know that the suspension springs and dampers are quietly failing and the ride height dropping such that we drag on bumps in the road. And that I’m about to replace them with new coil over damper units from SSL
All this will only go to make a very good Morgan into an incredible Morgan!
I’m disappointed to read comments made by both owners and non-owners of the CX cars on the current problems.
Over the years I have been fortunate enough to own Morgans from a 1939 4/4 through to our present First Edition Plus Six – one of the first 50 cars. We had a 2017/18 Plus 4 automatic (conversion by Vittese) along with the Plus Six. The Plus 4 was a delight to drive but when compared with the Plus Six it was not even on the same page. When I collected the P6 on arrival and drove on the expressway I could not believe it was a Morgan! The handling and ride was so improved. With the 2018 Plus4 after 100 miles of driving and I was well shaken and ready for a rest, whereas in the P6 I can drive 300 miles and be ready to go out for the evening.
Yes I knew from day One that the brakes were soft and rather suspect, and this replacement is only doing what I would have done myself
.
And yes I know that the suspension springs and dampers are quietly failing and the ride height dropping such that we drag on bumps in the road. And that I’m about to replace them with new coil over damper units from SSL
All this will only go to make a very good Morgan into an incredible Morgan!
As I understand it, it’s an issue on the Plus Six. The SSL “upgrade” receives good reviews. When I spoke to my dealer about my Plus Four CX about an upgrade they said it was generally agreed that Morgan had done a great job on the Plus Four and the suspension couldn’t really be improved.
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I understood MMC changed steerrig geometry & the gearbox maps for the 2022 models.
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That's what I understood re: radiator Richard. I’d be looking at how the radiator is mounted….. Exactly my thoughts all along… I simply do not buy into the swirl pot idea! Well let's hope for Morgan's sake you are wrong. I can't see this issue being stretched indefinately.
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This thread was for brake recall concerns, but as the continuing radiator saga has been mentioned. My questions to Morgan would be ( Engineering hat back on ).
AA: Are ALL the CX vehicles going to be fitted with a swirl pot to prevent thermal shock, if so, when/how?.. If its just specific vehicles to have the swirl pot, why.? Where is the information/notification for this work.
BB: Have the BMW vehicles fitted with the engines that Morgan use experienced similar radiator thermal shock issues, or is the Morgan cooling configuration vastly different.?
With reference to the brake notice issued by Morgan.. If as reported the Morgan factory are gearing up for the radiator work ( recall?? ), where is the information from Morgan... Surely they should be issuing notification to CX owners. How will this impact warranty for CX cars coming to the end of their factory warranty period.
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This thread was for brake recall concerns, but as the continuing radiator saga has been mentioned. My questions to Morgan would be ( Engineering hat back on ).
AA: Are ALL the CX vehicles going to be fitted with a swirl pot to prevent thermal shock, if so, when/how?.. If its just specific vehicles to have the swirl pot, why.? Where is the information/notification for this work.
BB: Have the BMW vehicles fitted with the engines that Morgan use experienced similar radiator thermal shock issues, or is the Morgan cooling configuration vastly different.?
With reference to the brake notice issued by Morgan.. If as reported the Morgan factory are gearing up for the radiator work ( recall?? ), where is the information from Morgan... Surely they should be issuing notification to CX owners. How will this impact warranty for CX cars coming to the end of their factory warranty period.
dave Some serious questions here Dave looking forward to the answers.....
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I’m disappointed to read comments made by both owners and non-owners of the CX cars on the current problems.
Over the years I have been fortunate enough to own Morgans from a 1939 4/4 through to our present First Edition Plus Six – one of the first 50 cars. We had a 2017/18 Plus 4 automatic (conversion by Vittese) along with the Plus Six. The Plus 4 was a delight to drive but when compared with the Plus Six it was not even on the same page. When I collected the P6 on arrival and drove on the expressway I could not believe it was a Morgan! The handling and ride was so improved. With the 2018 Plus4 after 100 miles of driving and I was well shaken and ready for a rest, whereas in the P6 I can drive 300 miles and be ready to go out for the evening.
Yes I knew from day One that the brakes were soft and rather suspect, and this replacement is only doing what I would have done myself
.
And yes I know that the suspension springs and dampers are quietly failing and the ride height dropping such that we drag on bumps in the road. And that I’m about to replace them with new coil over damper units from SSL
All this will only go to make a very good Morgan into an incredible Morgan!
I’m disappointed to read comments made by both owners and non-owners of the CX cars on the current problems.
Over the years I have been fortunate enough to own Morgans from a 1939 4/4 through to our present First Edition Plus Six – one of the first 50 cars. We had a 2017/18 Plus 4 automatic (conversion by Vittese) along with the Plus Six. The Plus 4 was a delight to drive but when compared with the Plus Six it was not even on the same page. When I collected the P6 on arrival and drove on the expressway I could not believe it was a Morgan! The handling and ride was so improved. With the 2018 Plus4 after 100 miles of driving and I was well shaken and ready for a rest, whereas in the P6 I can drive 300 miles and be ready to go out for the evening.
Yes I knew from day One that the brakes were soft and rather suspect, and this replacement is only doing what I would have done myself
.
And yes I know that the suspension springs and dampers are quietly failing and the ride height dropping such that we drag on bumps in the road. And that I’m about to replace them with new coil over damper units from SSL
All this will only go to make a very good Morgan into an incredible Morgan!
. The SSL “upgrade” receives good reviews. When I spoke to my dealer about my Plus Four CX about an upgrade they said it was generally agreed that Morgan had done a great job on the Plus Four and the suspension couldn’t really be improved. Surely you must be kidding.....
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This thread was for brake recall concerns, but as the continuing radiator saga has been mentioned. My questions to Morgan would be ( Engineering hat back on ).
AA: Are ALL the CX vehicles going to be fitted with a swirl pot to prevent thermal shock, if so, when/how?.. If its just specific vehicles to have the swirl pot, why.? Where is the information/notification for this work.
BB: Have the BMW vehicles fitted with the engines that Morgan use experienced similar radiator thermal shock issues, or is the Morgan cooling configuration vastly different.?
With reference to the brake notice issued by Morgan.. If as reported the Morgan factory are gearing up for the radiator work ( recall?? ), where is the information from Morgan... Surely they should be issuing notification to CX owners. How will this impact warranty for CX cars coming to the end of their factory warranty period.
dave From a sample of one CX owner I know the cars going back to the factory for the rad fix. His car has already had 4 radiators in under 2 years
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