Tesla owners need to use an adapter to use non-Tesla charging stations, so I expect they didn't have one as all these queuing pictures appear to be only Tesla related.
Just highlights the need, which existed from day 1 of the first EV, to standardise charging systems. After about 15 years of smart phones we know have a pretty much universal standard of USB C; something similar is needed for EVs. If the industry is unwilling to do it surely it is a case for Euro vehicle standards legislation to be implemented.
As an interim a PHEV makes more sense than the self charge hybrid......................
A plugin hybrid is the only solution that I would even consider for the moment. A full BEV would, for me, only be suitable for the shopping trolley. Any car needed for long distance travel would need to be "recharged" in minutes, at the moment my choice is diesel as it produces less CO2 (than petrol) , has better mileage, and having an fine particle filter and add blue has other pollution nasties under control. Naturally the Morgan is exempted
Even the mild UK winter of 2021/2022 sapped about 20% range from the Tesla. So Im not surprised that the ferocious cold in the USA last week really crippled all EVVs, not just Tesla cars.
OTOH the Lithium batteries in Mars Odyssey kept it trundling around for 14 years in temperatures of between -60C and -125C
And the only reason it died was because a global dust storm covered the solar panels so it couldn't charge any more and there wasn't anyone around to clear them.
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Tim H. 1986 4/4 VVTi Sport, 2002 LR Defender, 2022 Mini Cooper SE
As an interim a PHEV makes more sense than the self charge hybrid......................
A plugin hybrid is the only solution that I would even consider for the moment. A full BEV would, for me, only be suitable for the shopping trolley. Any car needed for long distance travel would need to be "recharged" in minutes, at the moment my choice is diesel as it produces less CO2 (than petrol) , has better mileage, and having an fine particle filter and add blue has other pollution nasties under control. Naturally the Morgan is exempted
Don’t believe it Peter, more services, poor residual values, buying all these additives, a narrow power band, and sounds like you have Buddy Rich under the bonnet. You can keep your diesel thank you.
As an interim a PHEV makes more sense than the self charge hybrid......................
A plugin hybrid is the only solution that I would even consider for the moment. A full BEV would, for me, only be suitable for the shopping trolley. Any car needed for long distance travel would need to be "recharged" in minutes, at the moment my choice is diesel as it produces less CO2 (than petrol) , has better mileage, and having an fine particle filter and AdBlue has other pollution nasties under control. Naturally the Morgan is exempted
Don’t believe it Peter, more services, poor residual values, buying all these additives, a narrow power band, and sounds like you have Buddy Rich under the bonnet. You can keep your diesel thank you.
Service intervals on modern cars are fairly long so I am not too worried about that, once out of warranty I don't use the ridiculously expensive dealer anyway. Residual values don't worry me too much either as I tend to keep cars for about 10 years at which point I would be a bit cautious about buying a used BEV so I suppose others would be too. I suppose residual values on BEVs that are changed every couple of years are probably fairly good but when they start getting to the point where the batteries start to deteriorate the value must drop like a stone. Invariably the BEV version of a model of car cost significantly more in the first place so is out of the reach of many potential buyers even after various government subsidies and concessions are taken into consideration. Speaking of "various government subsidies and concessions" the real cost of these ultimately falls on the ordinary tax payer who does not have the opportunity to deduct vehicle running costs from their tax obligations in any case, so it is another example of the poor subsidising the rich As for narrow power band the engine in the Jag is 1,999 cc developing 132 kW (180 PS) @ 4,000rpm and 430 N⋅m (317 lb⋅ft) @ 1,750 – 2,500rpm, and don't forget that diesel engines tend to run a lower rpm than petrol engines. I find that adequate for a family touring car. As for engine noise you hardly even hear it inside the car and whatever it sounds like to someone on the footpath I don't really care. If I want to listen to engine and exhaust (and intake) sounds I have the Morgan The AdBlue costs about €24 for a fill which lasts about 15,000 km so that is not a real problem either. So the Jag stays for at least another 4 years, by that time I will be 80 so I just hope that I don't have to trade it in on a mobility scooter which might be the only BEV that I will ever own.
Tesla has been fined ₩2.85bn (£1.84m) by South Korean regulators for exaggerated claims over the range of its electric vehicles.
The car firm, which is headed by Elon Musk, claims that its Model S can drive up to 360 miles between charges.
According to the Korea Fair Trade Commission (KFTC), Tesla had been exaggerating the “driving ranges of its cars on a single charge, their fuel cost-effectiveness compared to gasoline vehicles as well as the performance of its Superchargers” on its official local website from August 2019 until recently.
The KFTC also added that driving ranges for Tesla EVs could plummet by as much as 50 per cent in cold temperatures.
Some studies have shown that in extremely low temperatures, the likes of which were recently experienced in the US (around -20°C), Tesla vehicles could lose up to 50 per cent of their range from an equivalently charged battery.
Even temperatures as high as 5°C have been shown to have a significant negative impact on the battery, with ranges of the Model 3 dropping by around one-seventh.
Last year, a South Korean consumer group called Citizens United for Consumer Sovereignty said the driving range of most EVs drops by up to 40 per cent in cold temperatures when batteries need to be heated. It found that Tesla vehicles often suffered the most in this regard.
In recent results, Tesla showed that it had delivered a record 1.3m vehicles last year, 40 per cent more than in 2021.
However, that figure missed Wall Street forecasts by around 430,000 deliveries for the period.
Tesla stock also saw broad selloffs last year - including many millions of shares by Musk himself - that has seen its share price fall dramatically by 65 per cent since early 2022.
The company is scheduled to announce financial results for the fourth quarter of 2022 and the year as a whole on 25 January 2023.
In April 2022, Musk promised that Tesla would have a “dedicated robotaxi” available as soon as 2024 which would have no steering wheel or pedals.
The firm has also had to contend with a raft of negative headlines associated with Musk after he decided to purchase Twitter last year following a protracted legal battle.
At the end of December, he promised to step down as CEO from the social media firm once a suitable replacement has been found.
Graham (G4FUJ)
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An interesting highlight on the Chinese EV & Battery Waste problem. I do not claim to support the validity of the YouTube channel or content but thought it worth sharing.
He also does some good stuff on the old UK computer industry, nuclear industry and other stuff.
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as it produces less CO2 (than petrol) , has better mileage, and having an fine particle filter and add blue has other pollution nasties under control. 
