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Yesterday, actually, made and fit the shoulder harness braces between the chassis and the anchor points at the top of the wheel arches. Coat of paint and drill the holes in the chassis today...[Linked Image]


I have never seen that before. What is the logic?


To connect the shoulder belt anchor points to something more substantial than just the wooden wheel arches. When we got the car last year there were no belts at all, just the holes where they had previously been installed.

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The wood is the usual fixing point on trads.


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Originally Posted by John V6
The wood is the usual fixing point on trads.


With no reinforcement?

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https://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/interior1.html#WATCHPOINT

Originally Posted by 1854sailor
Yesterday, actually, made and fit the shoulder harness braces between the chassis and the anchor points at the top of the wheel arches. Coat of paint and drill the holes in the chassis today...

Originally Posted by John V6
I have never seen that before. What is the logic?

Originally Posted by 1854sailor
To connect the shoulder belt anchor points to something more substantial than just the wooden wheel arches. When we got the car last year there were no belts at all, just the holes where they had previously been installed.

You are a wise and prudent man, 1854sailor. There was a time when Morgans (and other vehicles) did not have seat belts at all.
Then a very LONG period when they had to fit them by law. Then 3 rather than 2 pointers became mandatory, but no still no testing
was required. Laws enacted by politicians are not always wise. Sadly they, to my mind, made things worse in many cases. sick

Since our own accident 21 years ago https://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/RearEndCollisionRisk.jpg I became more interested in
such things. I discovered, after interviewing other "crash test dummies" ;), that the top fitting post on the rear wings, merely rips the
wing off in a rear wing impact. That snapped the neck of the wife of a mogger. She was sitting on the left in an RHD environment
while touring Greece (IRRC) many years ago. With amateur racers and the same seat belts, their upper bodies pleat at the waist
lurch forward and their heads hit the windscreen.

The Factory, when crash tests became more comprehensive and affidavit compliance began to end, moved the top anchor all the way
through to the end of the chassis! But I find that very messy as it is long, obstructs access and it gets filthy. nono

So instead, with the help of some gurus, I use this metal strap, merely attaching it to the lower side of the rear wing seat belt these cars
already have. I and many others have been thankful for it for 100,000s of miles since. It is non-invasive and well within the skill level of
an amateur. I merely align the metal strap, easily made at home from any length of metal, on an angle rearward to the chassis so the
strap is the most effective. Not much help if it goes straight down to the chassis.

It is another trad area where a few minutes of costless work and no special parts can avoid tragedies.

Lorne

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Interesting I had never heard of that


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All done! Well, except for a bit of cleaning under there...

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Went to the DMV and got my new license plate approved. Rhode Island has a "Year of Manufacture" plate program that I recently found out about and thought it would be a hoot to have plates of the 1964 design on the Morgan. The process was easy and mostly online, with only one visit to the DMV office for an in-person approval of the plate and sticker. The plates are available in any state/year design from a company in Florida, and I found a place that matched the sticker color and font perfectly. It helps that the DMV rep who is in charge of the program is a car enthusiast himself, as I was in and out of the office in under half an hour...

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What happens if there's more than one 1964 year car in RI ??


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What happens if there's more than one 1964 year car in RI ??


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They can still get the same year RI plate design, just not with the number "64". I totally lucked out that it was still available.

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1854sailor ... I get it now ... it's the plate style that's age related not the text .... i think CA have a similar sysyem with their old black plates .... I ran my old Harley in CA in the '70s with what was my favourite style CA plate ... the blue/yellow combo.

Plates are pretty dull this side of the pond by comparison ... pre '80 historics can run the black plates with silver/white script .... everyone else has the reflective white-front yellow-rear with black letters. (Unless you're the King/Queen and uniquely don't need a plate at all 😀)

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