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The 500ml can of Holts EGR cleaner was plenty for doing the valves. I also used some for cleaning the throttle body and the manifold, spraying into all the holes and swooshing it around several times - to get rid of any residual oil lurking on the internal surfaces. There's still a small amount of cleaner left in the can. It was considerably cheaper than some of the seemingly similar products such as Seafoam or CRC. It smells a bit like cellulose thinners and I was careful to avoid getting it on my hands. For the S1 Roadster ford do not recommend cleaning the throttle body with such a spray as it can strip off the plastic coating on the body. It will be Iso propyl alcohol probably which is one of the thinners for nitro cellulose based inks & paints. Thanks for that, John. Fortunately I used only a small amount and all on the inside, around the tract and butterfly - so only aluminium was involved. In fact there was very little black stuff in the throttle body anyway.
Keith 2017 Plus 4, deep blue
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Struggling with a technique for squeezing the side tabs of the clip in order to pull the tube from the manifold spigot. Cannot get any meaningful purchase with my fingers. Mole grips are too large and impeded by other pipes and cables. A pair of pliers impedes vision of what is going on. Any suggestions from good folk who have succeeded on this? Before I have a further attempt, is the arrowed item on my pic below actually the clip in question? ![[Linked Image]](https://tm-img.com/images/2023/10/14/IMG_4502.jpeg)
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^ try long nose forceps, the ratchet nr the finger holes allows it to the locked in place
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Struggling with a technique for squeezing the side tabs of the clip in order to pull the tube from the manifold spigot. Cannot get any meaningful purchase with my fingers. Mole grips are too large and impeded by other pipes and cables. A pair of pliers impedes vision of what is going on. Any suggestions from good folk who have succeeded on this? Before I have a further attempt, is the arrowed item on my pic below actually the clip in question? ![[Linked Image]](https://tm-img.com/images/2023/10/14/IMG_4502.jpeg) Yes. you have the correct part. It is very awkward and I failed quite a bit before it finally succumbed. Try pushing it further onto the spigot before squeezing to release and pull off. Once the clips are released it comes off quite easily.
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Thanks guys - some good tip’s there 👍
Shall persevere.
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This was not a five minute job but eventually success came in detaching the breather connection. Detached the windscreen washer bottle to give some elbow room, placed a mirror on a wooden offcut wedged to the inner wing, hung a small torch from a heater tube, applied a good squirt of silicone spray on the clip and maneouved a small flat bladed screwdriver with the aid of the mirror to prize the clip off. Next task will be to insert a bung into the inlet manifold hole - about 15mm ID. Then fix a long hose to the male portion of the plastic right angled connector - about 9.5mm ID. All done by feel with subsequent verification via the mirror! I need a beer  ![[Linked Image]](https://www.tm-img.com/images/2023/10/15/IMG_4523.png) :
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Good final result though Chris. Hope you enjoyed the beer 
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This was not a five minute job but eventually success came in detaching the breather connection. Detached the windscreen washer bottle to give some elbow room, placed a mirror on a wooden offcut wedged to the inner wing, hung a small torch from a heater tube, applied a good squirt of silicone spray on the clip and maneouved a small flat bladed screwdriver with the aid of the mirror to prize the clip off. Next task will be to insert a bung into the inlet manifold hole - about 15mm ID. Then fix a long hose to the male portion of the plastic right angled connector - about 9.5mm ID. All done by feel with subsequent verification via the mirror! I need a beer  ![[Linked Image]](https://www.tm-img.com/images/2023/10/15/IMG_4523.png) : Well done for getting it off. Surprised you needed to lever it off, but whatever worked is good. I found the OD of the inlet manifold connection to be around 12-13mm. I used this 13mm ID hose to make my connections and it was a very slightly loose fit, needing a hoseclip to make it tight and secure. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07NPH92J5?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
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Monty, Gloat away, that's fine.
DaveW, Whilst some of the oil on the backs of the valves will come from the breather some will also come down the valve guides, IMHO. Cheers John Totally agree John, in fact a significant amount of oil residue is likely to arrive that way. With low mileage engines, the crankcase won't be "pressurised", but the oil droplets will get sucked through, although my breather wasn't oily at all. We're stuck with this design fault, and I suppose all we can do is use decent oil, and keep an eye on it.
DaveW '05 Red Roadster S1 '16 Yellow (Not the only) Narrow AR GDI Plus 4
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