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Originally Posted by Davetherave
Interesting ref the pellets being imported from the USA. Our local wood supplier told me last year that he was struggling to buy large amounts of timber as they were shipping a lot by rail from the West Country to be turned into pellets for the Drax power station.. This info is 3rd hand, so I dont know if its 100% correct. I do know we have a "trial" bio digester 15 miles away, that coverts organics into gas, that then powers a generator. Good idea in theory, but they are increasingly going further and further on the roads, over 12 miles, to source the locally grown fuel and hauling it all by a fleet of huge John Deer tractors. I imagine that if you looked at their fuel consumption it would be just as green to burn diesel directly for the generator.

On the other side of this green agenda. I help undertake wild deer management ( with all the certification and training that is involved ), you would think local sourced Venison would be a great green plus point, but we just learnt that our game dealer will not accept any more as they cant get rid of it.. its bonkers.. When they were accepting it, we recieved 1£ per Kg.. for many many hours of work..
Dave those stories are totally bonkers, not so long ago Venison was a delicacy and still remains so for us, I suppose the greens and veggies have influenced the market now.
We are lucky down here and have a source that serves a similar vital role as you do.

p.s. The local posher restaurants still serve it possibly to the older generation that frequent them.


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It is a ridiculous situation and one that is mirrored on the grouse moors where birds are often given away because they cant be sold. Yet I would love to be able to buy sensibly priced grouse or vennison.

And equally daft, it is now not officially allowed to buy fresh caught fish from a fishing boat - instead it has to go off to a market and re-appear in the supermarket a couple of days older

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Originally Posted by howard
It is a ridiculous situation and one that is mirrored on the grouse moors where birds are often given away because they cant be sold. Yet I would love to be able to buy sensibly priced grouse or vennison.

And equally daft, it is now not officially allowed to buy fresh caught fish from a fishing boat - instead it has to go off to a market and re-appear in the supermarket a couple of days older
Totally bonkers, but then many of the younger generation don't know how to prepare and cook fresh produce. It must come prepared and packed in plastic with detailed instructions and preferably only need a couple of minutes in the microwave.


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Originally Posted by howard
It is a ridiculous situation and one that is mirrored on the grouse moors where birds are often given away because they cant be sold. Yet I would love to be able to buy sensibly priced grouse or venison.

The crazy thing is that venison, grouse and pheasant are delicious - I live in the middle of a shooting estate so eat a lot of it.

It's a bad look for shooting too if the birds are not eaten.


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Originally Posted by howard
It is a ridiculous situation and one that is mirrored on the grouse moors where birds are often given away because they cant be sold. Yet I would love to be able to buy sensibly priced grouse or vennison.

And equally daft, it is now not officially allowed to buy fresh caught fish from a fishing boat - instead it has to go off to a market and re-appear in the supermarket a couple of days older
Howard spot on once more, that is exactly why Mitch Tonks set up his new venture over in Brixscum here in order to supply his own restaurants but feed his online market.

He is very supportive of the local communities where he operates, the food is good too laugh2


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Originally Posted by +8Rich
Originally Posted by Davetherave
Interesting ref the pellets being imported from the USA. Our local wood supplier told me last year that he was struggling to buy large amounts of timber as they were shipping a lot by rail from the West Country to be turned into pellets for the Drax power station.. This info is 3rd hand, so I dont know if its 100% correct. I do know we have a "trial" bio digester 15 miles away, that coverts organics into gas, that then powers a generator. Good idea in theory, but they are increasingly going further and further on the roads, over 12 miles, to source the locally grown fuel and hauling it all by a fleet of huge John Deer tractors. I imagine that if you looked at their fuel consumption it would be just as green to burn diesel directly for the generator.

On the other side of this green agenda. I help undertake wild deer management ( with all the certification and training that is involved ), you would think local sourced Venison would be a great green plus point, but we just learnt that our game dealer will not accept any more as they cant get rid of it.. its bonkers.. When they were accepting it, we recieved 1£ per Kg.. for many many hours of work..
Dave those stories are totally bonkers, not so long ago Venison was a delicacy and still remains so for us, I suppose the greens and veggies have influenced the market now.
We are lucky down here and have a source that serves a similar vital role as you do.

p.s. The local posher restaurants still serve it possibly to the older generation that frequent them.

It's madness isn't it. I'm happy to say it will be a venison haunch for us on Christmas day. Though much to my South African BiLs dismay it's roasted on a gas BBQ and not wood fired.


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Originally Posted by Davetherave
Interesting ref the pellets being imported from the USA. Our local wood supplier told me last year that he was struggling to buy large amounts of timber as they were shipping a lot by rail from the West Country to be turned into pellets for the Drax power station.. This info is 3rd hand, so I dont know if its 100% correct. I do know we have a "trial" bio digester 15 miles away, that coverts organics into gas, that then powers a generator. Good idea in theory, but they are increasingly going further and further on the roads, over 12 miles, to source the locally grown fuel and hauling it all by a fleet of huge John Deer tractors. I imagine that if you looked at their fuel consumption it would be just as green to burn diesel directly for the generator.

On the other side of this green agenda. I help undertake wild deer management ( with all the certification and training that is involved ), you would think local sourced Venison would be a great green plus point, but we just learnt that our game dealer will not accept any more as they cant get rid of it.. its bonkers.. When they were accepting it, we recieved 1£ per Kg.. for many many hours of work..
Dave those stories are totally bonkers, not so long ago Venison was a delicacy and still remains so for us, I suppose the greens and veggies have influenced the market now.
We are lucky down here and have a source that serves a similar vital role as you do.

p.s. The local posher restaurants still serve it possibly to the older generation that frequent them.

It's madness isn't it. I'm happy to say it will be a venison haunch for us on Christmas day. Though much to my South African BiLs dismay it's roasted on a gas BBQ and not wood fired.
David that sounds delicious you can always offer him his own boerewoers on a brei outside whilst you luxuriate with your haunch. oops


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I think we are having very locally produced Lamb for Christmas, I know the farm where they were born and brought up, what they have eaten and I have walked their organic fields.. so happy in their cycle of life. As you may think, we have a fair amount of venison in our freezers, its the Rolls Royce of meat IMHO. The only thing that niggles me is that its nearly always listed on a menu as just Venision, rather than identifying the species.. ie. Roe Venison, Fallow Venison, Red Venison, etc. There is a fair bit in texture and taste difference between them. For our location I would rate the best as Roe, followed by Sika ( available in East Somerset or Dorset ) ,Fallow, then Red.. Anyway I digress from woodburners.... guru

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Regrettably they'll be doing their own braai up in the Cederberg Richard, wood fired of course. Dave, I completely agree about identifying the deer species, Roe is my favourite too.


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He is a lucky boy we had one of our radio stations up on hills above Piketberg, a lovely area and sunny


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