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Yes it seems good at converting fuel to noise!

I did see a +8 at Beaverbrook last year with a JE 4.6 and SSL suspension, but it had alloys which I really dont like, and it sold by the time I sold my Caterham.

I've always wanted a supercharged car and now I have one.

I've been on with the machine polisher the last few nights as it was well below my standards, but its a great foundation and will make an amazing car once I have tweeked it a bit!

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Originally Posted by Montegue
A positive displacement Sprintex S5-335 screw type supercharger can take as much as 30 horsepower just to turn it when it's pumping hard, so if you are starting with a standard 180hp Range Rover spec 3.9 in good health, you're now down to 150hp. Of course, this before you've put any of the compressed air the blower makes back into the engine.

At this point you should keep in mind you'll need roughly 3psi of boost just to get you back to the original 180hp, at which point you would be better off with no compressor at all because you'll just be burning more fuel to turn it, and get you back to the same 180hp the naturally aspirated engine started out with.

If you don't have an intercooler or charge cooler then 6psi would be a likely safe boost ceiling, so that's 3psi to get you back to 180hp, plus whatever the remaining 3psi gives you above that. Common folklaw states you should enjoy roughly 10hp for every psi of boost, this is of course an over-simplification as it's actually a percentage increase not a fixed 10hp per psi.

None of this is easy to estimate as the percentage will change across different compressor types, diffent engines, different elevation levels above sea level, different temperatures etc etc etc. To asses the effciency of your setup you really do need to start with your engine's naturally aspirated power output before the blower was fitted, you then need to confirm exactly how much pressure over atmosphere (boist) you are forcing into the engine?

You may also find you actually only started out with 170hp, and you're getting more like 15psi per psi of boost, so at 6psi that would be 170 + 60 = 230hp, which wouldn't be far off your quoted 240hp thumbs

It does have a small intercooler. I'm going to get intouch with Lloyd Specialist Developments to get more info about it and what they did. How do you increase the boost to 8ps?

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Originally Posted by Adam12
Montegue -- mechanical neophyte here: your write "I'd be expecting 270hp at the crank (230hp at the hubs)". Does this mean you lose literally 40hp between the engine and the wheels? Does it really take that much power just to turn the driveshaft and the axels?

It's not an exact science as there are many variables, but most tend to use something in the order of -18% for their drivetrain losses calculation.
Thank you Montegue -- as I recall engine output on an early VW bugs was something south of 40 hp in total (on a good day...). It is amazing how much power wanders off to the pub twixt engine and asphalt!


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