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Originally Posted By stevenvillatoro
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Stevens initial question was to ask owners what their thoughts on the longterm reliability of this vehicle and as many have stated on this forum already, no car has gone far enough to make a judgement call like this.

Just to (gently) set the record straight, my initial post, and the point of the thread, had nothing to do with reliability whatsoever. My interest was limited to whether those who had taken delivery could conceive of using the 3W as a daily driver, based on vehicle type/design/features.
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Steven I don't think anyone has an issue with your topic, your comments or anything else that people have generally posted, including Jays comment, or AQM's opinion on what matters and what doesnt matter to him. These are all based on queries or instances they have heard or know about. Nothing wrong with writing stating asking or discussing. That's what we're here for.

I will deal with what I do have an issue with in a separate (next?) post.



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Originally Posted By Lance
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The best way to keep rumors going is to keep repeating them!

What we have on this site is at least four owners and many more who have driven the cars in the real world! And many who have good contacts within the MMC family that can be quoted.

If you have an experience to recount, do so. And please quote sources. It helps justify (or refute) as appropriate. As long as its 'factual', we'll listen. As for 'rumours' and innuendo.....



Oh by the way, I heard a rumor that there are some very bitter and twisted people in small corners of the Morgan world. Honestly Guv!


I mentioned a couple of issues I had heard, and two of them have been confirmed in this thread, unpleasantly noisy bevel box, observed by someone who had just driven one at the factory, and Mike Duncans car back at the works for charging problems. Facts

I wondered how long it would take you to come out with the name calling, so predictable.


No you didn't Lance, what you said was:

"Have been hearing rumors of cars going back to the works with issues of hard starting, not charging, very loud bevel boxes , and corrosion."

As for Mike Duncan's car, that was posted here AFTER you posted. It may have been posted elsewhere beforehand but I can't recall.

That Is rumour mongering of the finest. As Simon very clearly stated, it's starting your 'contribution' with a negative, and I feel it's intentional, though of course that's my opinion only.

If you had said "I understand Mike Duncan's car has had ......" and/or "I read on XYZ that so and so's car has a noisy bevel box, is this typical? Can any of the owners shed any light?" or words to that effect it old ave been perceived very differently. But you state no facts, just conjecture, and IMHO exaggerated conjecture, dramatic conjecture. Why can't you just stick to facts or verifiable sources? That's all.

As for "the name calling" why are you you upset? I was simply re-stating a rumour??


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My poor post!

MIght the who-said-what politics be addressed privately, please?!?


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Oh Steve....what have you started? wink


Yes....lets get back to Steve's original question! Which I can't answer because I've yet to drive the car.......which was Mike Duncans! Well, I know what my answer would be....there are times when I desire the comfort of a roof and heater so it wouldn't be a daily driver for me. BUT.......if I looked out of the window and saw weather like todays.... cold but without a cloud in the sky...I'd jump in it like a flash!


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On daily drivers, there were two interesting cats at Geneva, both of which I use as a daily driver, both electric.

An Opel concept car, which is quite futuristic and a bit cockpit-esque. But more importantly, the new Renault Wiz which I think is great and will be on sale in the UK in under a year.

They both had roofs, but the Wiz was open on the sides to the elements. Definitely a bit more practical, but more fun? Not on your Nelly smile


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I like the idea of an electric car, but it wouldn't be practical for me.

To return to the 3W as a daily driver. As I said earlier, it will be a daily driver for me. Although I will keep our Lupo 3L, because we have a daughter (born 12th of January), so she will be have to driven around at least some, and I'm not sure I want to drive around a small child in it. It's simply not safe enough for that.

But for my personal transportation - going to the studio, going out to interview people, going to a meeting, going for a row in my coastal rowing boat, and, not least, for travel, it will be the transportation of choice.

Anyway, I will have heated seats and I'm contemplating a home made inflation device in the back rest (behind the leather) at the lower of the back.

I would/will make it from one of those manual pumps you use to check blood pressure with. It seems to me to be in the spirit of the thing. smile





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Originally Posted By AQM
I'm not sure I want to drive around a small child in it. It's simply not safe enough for that.


Might get some bad comments on this regard, but I am hoping I can attach the child seat to the 3 wheeler and take my 2 year old for a drive. Im always of the thought that if it is not safe enough for my children, then it is not safe enough for me. Wouldn't want them orfans!

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I see your point, but I think that if I were to live by that golden rule, I wouldn't even bicycle alone. Or row in open water, climb, skate (okay, I'm too old for that now), paraglide, or what else you can think of.

In all seriousness, though, I can definately imagine taking her for a go in it, I just don't want it to be the normal transportion for her. I'm willing to risk a small trip once in a while, but not every time I need to transport her somewhere.



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Originally Posted By AQM
I like the idea of an electric car, but it wouldn't be practical for me.

To return to the 3W as a daily driver. As I said earlier, it will be a daily driver for me. Although I will keep our Lupo 3L, because we have a daughter (born 12th of January), so she will be have to driven around at least some, and I'm not sure I want to drive around a small child in it. It's simply not safe enough for that.

But for my personal transportation - going to the studio, going out to interview people, going to a meeting, going for a row in my coastal rowing boat, and, not least, for travel, it will be the transportation of choice.

Anyway, I will have heated seats and I'm contemplating a home made inflation device in the back rest (behind the leather) at the lower of the back.

I would/will make it from one of those manual pumps you use to check blood pressure with. It seems to me to be in the spirit of the thing. smile







AQM. On the inflatable seat back they used to be common on I think old Fords but also on Lotus Elises so maybe you can get one on line.


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Originally Posted By AQM
I see your point, but I think that if I were to live by that golden rule, I wouldn't even bicycle alone. Or row in open water, climb, skate (okay, I'm too old for that now), paraglide, or what else you can think of.

In all seriousness, though, I can definately imagine taking her for a go in it, I just don't want it to be the normal transportion for her. I'm willing to risk a small trip once in a while, but not every time I need to transport her somewhere.



Iike anything there is black, there is white and there is a lot of grey in between. Depends on different peoples take on things.

There is also I guess managing the risks. I would take my kids out for a little trip on a quiet day but wouldnt do so on a commute on a busy motorway or trunk roads so agree with your second paragraph.


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