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#763498 12/07/2022 10:12 AM
by Burgundymog
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Where is Miscellany this month, has anybody received there's yet ?
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#791400 Dec 5th a 07:24 PM
by CooperMan
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Originally Posted by Ian Wegg
Originally Posted by Lordofthewings
I sent this email on Oct 15 last year; quote:
"Why not offer the alternative of a digital-only Membership, for say half-price ? Miscellany is a good read a couple of times, thereafter it just takes-up space. Ads would appear within a time-frame that means advertisers' offerings would still be current (often "gone" by the time they appear in Miscellany)".
No reply or even acknowledgment.


It appears MSCC are taking up the suggestion, at least in part. From next year Miscellany will be digital-download for overseas members. Print versions will still be available for members prepared to pay the cost. Apparently the average annual cost of sending the mag outside of Europe is £120, £50 more than the subscription fee.

I'm not confident how well the Magazine is managed, there was an additional 'cost' posted in the accounts of £26,000 for production of Miscellany, when queried the explanation was very woolly, I suspect someone didn't negotiate a fixed price contract with Offstone so that they take the ‘hit’ of increased costs

I subscribe to several club and general magazines, the closest to Miscellany for comparison is also subcontracted out but has less members (so costs to print higher)
it's usually around 60 pages, glossy, lots of quality photos, interesting articles written by marque experts, tech stuff, and it isn't supported by so many adverts.
Subs are UK £39, Europe £55, ROW just £67, and it's recently had it's costs reviewed to check it's not loosing ££, oh and it has a clever compostable see thro wrapper
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#791470 Dec 6th a 06:50 PM
by Luddite
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Originally Posted by PaulyG
Coop and Luddite, what are the names of the other clubs?

Pauly the other two are not Morgan related...

i hope to renew my MSCCDG membership at the turn of the year. I have also had an article published in Miscellany, all be it quite some time back.
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#791527 Dec 7th a 01:46 PM
by Alistair
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I agree with all of that.

Before the Skyline GTR became famous there were a group of 10-12 of us who had privately imported ours and used to meet up to swap tips and ideas etc. It was great. Then Top Gear made it a bit famous and the JDM thing kicked off. Suddenly we had every yahoo running 200bar boost and slicks turning up so the pub we used to go to cut us off.

TM remains the only forum/club that I really enjoy, scruffy moments included, because there is always something to learn from the vast knowledge of the contributors on a broad range of subjects.

I guess the face to face club community has migrated to the internet for most things now. Not always for the better. A supplement not a substitute.
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#791523 Dec 7th a 01:06 PM
by DaveW
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Car Clubs are complex. Because they involve PEOPLE. I founded a local MG club in 1978. We met twice a month, and for a while it was huge fun. I only stuck with that for 22 years because nobody else wanted to do it. Of course, everybody had a view, Most people had complaints, but nobody wanted to get off their arse and help. Then over time "cliques" developed, and it became impossible to agree on much, even start times for runs out, and so activities dwindled, although the meeting survived and still does, even now.

The MGOC faced criticism of not being a club, and yet functioned consitently better than the MG Car Club, which initially didn't want to bother with post T Type MGs. Indeed meetings tended to be for pre 55 MG's (from memory). Our local MGCC meetings were unwelcoming, and although we tried a few times, it was a lost cause. I fell into writing articles for both club magazines almost by accident. This was the late 70's. Cameras were not digital, and I used a typewriter. I ended up on the V8 Register of the MGCC and because we shared a focused interest, the committee meetings were generally good fun. Although occasionally politics and personal grudges erupted. These took place at Abingdon and so were a big commitment of time, when I was working full time.

The point of those reminiscences is this. If you pay your subs just for a magazine, it's not good value. The value of any car club is involvement, but even this can be tough to achieve.

Rolling forward to the MSCC. I joined in 2003, five years before I bought my Roadster. It was a no brainer. Already I had 25 years of car clubs under my belt. I needed to get a feel for the MSCC. So for five years I consumed every page of Miscellany. It was very different to the MG clubs and yet all the component parts were the same. When I finally took the plunge it seemed logical to continue being involved. In time the club needed a Concours Sec and I had been involved since 1982, with both MG clubs, including running local events and the national MGOC concours for seven years. So that was a no brainer.

The senior officials of the MSCC work very hard, mostly on a voluntary basis. I attended committee meetings for seven years, and the AGMs, all while I was working full time, and I enjoyed being involved and seeing the club function close up. Like any other club, there were cliques and politics and tensions. There were ups and downs. That's people for you. The local meeting leaders attended those meetings and many were frustrated by the local politics of their groups, much as I had been with MG.

After seven years of that, it was time to back off a bit. I've continued my involvement in the Concours event, and still write that monthly ramble but that's it now. We did try our local Morgan meeting, but just like the MGCC local meetings we never really felt like we belonged. If local meetings want to capture new attendees, they need to be much more welcoming. We had the same problem way back in the 80's. People would rather sit and chat with their friends than engage with new faces, and I don't have an answer for this. Even at this year's Mog Event, at the drinks reception, and at the dinner, members want to cluster with people they know, and yet they miss out on a perfect opportunity to have a new conversation with strangers. We chatted to a couple from East Anglia who also had "no friends", but the highlight of the dinner was sitting on a table with a Belgian contingent, who we may never see again, but were charming people, and amazing company.

TalkMorgan delivers more, because it has no boundaries and therefore no limits. It does depend on individuals getting stuck in, but we've done some amazing things as a TM group since I joined in December 2008. I regret very much not doing the Scottish Tour which took place one April.....maybe 2009 or 2010. But we've had several factory visits. We've been shown around the inner corners of the factory, normally out of sight, and we've had audiences with Steve Morris. We've toured Superform and seen the wing manufacturing process. We've had large gatherings at Gaydon and Hive Beach, and numerous smaller collectives. That's what makes TM so special. If you want to plan something, you can just do it. Lets hope for more of the same going forward.

OK I'm done! oldgit grin2 smirk2
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