Thanks for your rely Dave. I appreciate that the length is not a critical value as in so much as they are easily shortened, but there is a big difference between 1/8"and a 1/4". As I recollect I think it is 1/8" but it could be 3/32". It's just I am looking for the correct fit pin in Stainless Steel, I don't want to buy a boxed set of cheap pins in mild steel that I will never use again, because I am a bit of a tight a**e