Originally Posted by HeadlessBlue
I must confess, whilst I accept the fluidity of our language and that I am a right old fart, I am increasingly annoyed with the increasing use of the word "gotten" instead of "got" in newspaper articles. Hurumph! And ggggrrrr!
Anyway, welcome back Neil....
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HB


Well, you are just not old enough. As past participles of get, got and gotten both date back to Middle English. The form gotten is not used in British English but is very common in North American English, though even there it is often regarded as non-standard. A past participle is a word that's used with had, have or has. Therefore, it's perfectly acceptable to use gotten if it's being used with its companion word. For example, the misting of the gauges in my Morgan has gotten worse. Middle english was in general use up to the mid 1600s.


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