Originally Posted by howard
Originally Posted by Viper
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Well thats a load of arty farty bs isnt it? What about the real design? What engine? What Weight? What power? What suspension? Chain drive? Greasing required? Cars are all about engineering and performance not such nonsense as an eccentric front end towed by its wheels, or whatever the precise words were.

Sorry if that sounds grumpy but with all the arty car adverts telling you nothing of any use, its easy to be grumpy.




Yes Howard it does sound like you’re a grumpy old toad because you are a grumpy old toad.


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