As an ex biker I'd say that the M3W is very much a ride even though the controls are car like, but the Plus 8 is a drive.
Some of the old 4/4s are certainly a ride as they can be as difficult to keep going as a 1960s bike...


Peter,
66, 2016 Porsche Boxster S
No longer driving Tarka, the 2014 Plus 8...