Steve I am in the dog house SWMBO Jnr left me a box of After 8s . I never learn I opened them and left them on the coffee table . My wifes day off work today . I went over to them and thought I will have one . They seemed rather odd she had nicked some and spread them out in the box expecting me not to notice . I shouted have you been at those 8s being as you are on a diet ( sore point ). No I havent touched them was the reply , well the box is a bit short hint hint . You cant live with them and you cant live without them . Women that is not After 8s . So dont ask me for help I cant work my own wife out.