Originally Posted by Rog
Well done Dave. Absolutely brilliant, such compelling and tantalizing data… I think Monty might be being a bit bashful here about revealing his full potential woohoo

What’s the date stamp on those rear tyres? Has that compound started to age harden?

Cheers Rog, all Monty's tyres are just 24 months old, I noted when I bought him at auction with just 10,000 miles on the clock Monty was sat on his original Yokos dated 2011, as you can imagine they were very wooden so we're replaced immediately with a nice new set of Continentals.

I'm confident Monty will put down 185hp on a dry rolling road and this does seem to deliver a lot of fun in an 877kg Morgan, especially one serving up such wide spread of torque. As you know I come from a sucession of much more powerful cars, but if I was able to measure them all back to back on a 'Fun Dyno' (if such a thing existed).

Monty would absolutely destroy them all cloud9


Originally Posted by Deejay
Worth waiting for Dave. Thanks for sharing. As you say, low down torque is what gives the thrill on the road and you have certainly achieved that in spades. BHP is a little unexpected but good luck with future improvements.

Thanks Doug thumbs

I‘m quite pragmatic about these things, I've said it before and I'll say it again..... "a rolling road is a useful tuning tool, but if you really want to accurately measure output you'd use an engine dyno".

I'd shied away from the power run thing until now as the results can often be very variable, and I'm not one for the pub bragging rights game either. I think age and a bit of maturity (but not too much laugh2) has taught me it's all about the way a car makes me feel, rather than the number it makes on a rolling road. Anyway, it's actually this sort of thing that means a lot more to me than what Monty's engine does, or doesn't do, during the last 800rpm at the very top end of his power delivery, in reality an area rarely visited.

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Back to the wheelspin theory, yesterday was indeed very wet, and the way these power shootout days go at Surrey Rolling Road is there's a constant stream of cars going on and off the dyno in rapid succession, this drags standing water through the workshop and onto the rollers. My tyres were certainly very wet as were the rollers during my run, but it was the smell of hot rubber that gave the game away to me.

I consider these Surrey Rolling Road sessions as somewhat of a circus, but for just £45 a run I'd class it as a cheap bit of fun on Saturday morning. I actually have a good friend who's been operating a rolling road for years, he got so fed up with wheel spin issues he eventually upgraded to a Dynapack hub dyno, this completely solves the problem but it's not splined hub friendly, so no good for Monty with his wire wheels.

Back to yesterday at SRR my good mate Dave Jefferies was the first of the two of us on the rollers with Molly, his Z-Cars Mini that has a Civic Type-R engine in the back, a good Honda K20 engine should make 220hp all day long so we were all super surprised to see it record 185hp.

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What I can tell you is out in the real world Dave's little 750kg Mini is an absolute weapon, you can see Molly in action here....



Molly and Monty are best friends, they're also very well matched out on the road during their many spirited adventures together, and neither Dave is desperately seeking more power from our super fun and surprisingly rapid retro Q Cars.

We prefer to spend our money on fuel, and drive the wheels off our babies instead drive

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