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Very interesting and looked like a well executed job - much better than I expected for this programme - and resulting in a genuinely improved car. I was particularly interested to see the front suspension upgrade as I'm wondering about camber plates and roller bearings for mine.

I have a lot of stuff from Mulfab (Peter Mulberry) on my car, he does very high quality parts. The tramp bars, Panhard rod and steering bearing on Wheeler Dealers look like they came from Peter. The link (showing steering bearings)

http://www.mulfab.co.uk/our-products/9/steering-suspension/steering-bearing-kit

On Wheeler Dealers they also briefly showed an on-car threaded front camber adjuster, but I can't find it anywhere. Does anyone know who makes them?

While I'm at it, I have been looking for a hardtop for years ('82 plus 8). I'm close to laying up a pattern in clay and going from there! Anyone know of a nice "Le Mans" style hardtop?

Cheers
Terry
(Australia)

G'day Terry and welcome to the forum. What part of Oz do you live in?

Don't forget to post some pics

Terry, as I understand it, the adjustable camber plates are now standard fit on all new Trad Morgans by MMC. In the Wheeler Dealers programme they said that they had 'upgraded' the suspension to the latest Morgan spec, so I guess the adjustable camber plates were provided by MMC and you may be able to order them directly from the factory.

Also, I posted some photos on TM on 15 Sept 2012 which show them on a front suspension sub assembly.

BTW - Welcome to TM MZ

Threaded camber plates come from the factory.

The hard tops come from Mathais (probably spelt wrong) in Germany. He advertises in the club mag.

I was warned off the camber plates by Aero Racing.......they were not happy fitting them unless I allowed them to heat treat the upper kingpin mounting to avoid potential stress in that area. The cost .....a number of hours...put me off!

That's interesting Jays, and I'm curious as to why they say this, not least because as I've posted previously my car has had negative camber plates (approx. 1/2 degree neg) fitted by RPM, Perth on behalf of the previous owner.

I can see that that if the kingpin is slightly pushed outwards by the bottom mounting plate (i.e. negative camber) then there is some angular load induced on the top pick up point. But the top pickup is a fairly robust assembly comprising the solid cross tube and a preformed collar and flange unit that is welded to the cross tube. It must e reasonable to assume that this a durable assembly as it carries most of the front suspension compression load. It must also be reasonable to assume that, as it is quite a crude assembly tolerances wise, not all front suspension assemblies deliver perfect front suspension geometry "out of the box". So, some camber and castor adjustment will either be required at assembly, or there will have to be an acceptance that the camber and castor set up is "near enough" for the relatively crude sliding axle front suspension.

I had heard that some front suspension final alignment is done using "heat treatment" during assembly at MMC (which suggested to me that if this is indeed so, they bend the cross tubes to get the kingpins aligned). Perhaps that is why they have moved to the new adjustable camber plates, in order to reduce build time and manufacturing costs? If this is so, then it suggests that any minor angular loadings this imparts to the top pickup points is acceptable... hopefully.

Would appreciate your thoughts, particularly if you get the chance to discuss it at a factory visit (you're much nearer than I am up North)

MZ