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Has anyone had experience with the car shipping company WXC Express? http://www.wxc-express.com/

I'm inches away from pressing a key and accepting a deal on a Morgan - but before i pay for it I need to know if I can trust this company as it works as an escrow company (I pay them for the car before they ship it. If I accept the car when it arrives they pay the seller).

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You could start by asking them why their company is not listed at companies house:
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk

I thought the point of escrow was that the money is held independently of either party, so I would not be keen on sending it to the company making the delivery. I expect they are legit, but certainly be cautious..

Perhaps ask for a previous customers contact details who is willing to vouch for them.. not that this can't be scammed also!
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Warning to all. It is a scam!

I've done some digging on the Internet. The owner of the domain wxc-express.com is the owner of other scam sites that others have warned about.


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That's amazing: their website looks so convincing.. just goes to show. I hope Frode read these replies before he "pressed the key"!


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Thanks, I discovered it myself. (Work in IT - know how to do some research on web sites). I did the research. I should have known from the beginning because the deal was too good to be true. (car in great condition, very low priced).

As you said - a convincing website isn't enough anymore.

Back to searching for a Morgan that is right for me...

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Intrigued, I did an image search of the shot of the car coming out of their "transport". It is lifted from this website: http://www.j-planitzer.de/en/oldtimer_transport.html
A German classic-car transport company..
I think all their photos are lifted from this website. Their street address seems to be a Construction company! I guess the whole scam is based in outer space somewhere "beyond the law"..

If I was a journalist, I'd play along to the point of getting their bank details just out of curiosity..

Oliver S.

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I guess probably many here would like more background (I would be curious) so I'll share.

In short, the scam concept is: scammers advertises a car for sale, when someone shows interest they claim to have moved to a different country because of job, describes the car and sends pictures, suggest to use a auto transporter company that also functions as an escrow since this will be safe for the buyer. But the scammers are also behind the made up transport company.

The company that was suggested to me was: http://www.wxc-express.com/ (THIS IS A SCAM SITE) As you can see it is a convincing website.

I'm gonna leave some key information like name, email addresses and links so that if anyone else searches about the same email addresses or names they might find this post.

I got a tip about Morgan on a Swedish vintage car advert site. This advert (now marked as inactive): http://www.veteranborsen.se/veteranbilar-16/cab/morgan-plus-4-1360974

I later discovered the same advert on a different swedish site as well (older than the first):
http://stockholm-stad.annonsera.se/morgan-plus-4-cabriolet-%281962%29-696752.html

The name of the seller is Oliver Strom (most likely not real). Any attempt to lookup name or phone number in Sweden or UK does not give any results. When I contacted him using the first advert he responded after a week. He responded from email address oliver.strohm@hotmail.com, but was actually sent from gmail using classicfan21@gmail.com

He responded first time with being sorry because he had moved to York because of a new job. He wrote some more details, attached several photos and suggested to ship it or I could come and see it.

Yes - the price vs condition of car was too good to be true blush Which is the reason I asked here if anyone here where close to York and could have a look at the car.

I responded with interest, asked a few questions, suggested that I might want to try a fly over and have look this first weekend, but at the same time asked if he knew of a good way to ship it.

He responded that he would suggest using WXC Express. It was easy and secure. He would drop of the car at their drop point, I would pay the company, they would ship it to me. I then would have 3 days to accept or decline. If I accepted then the seller would get the money. It does sound like a great concept in itself - and at first it got me to relax my worry about the price being so low (my expectation was the the car probably was in worse shape). Luckily I thought about trusting the transport company - since I would give them money.

Thats why I asked here - and started some research myself.

This is what i discovered about the website http://www.wxc-express.com/ :
  • The domain name wxc-express.com was registered less than a month ago, and is owned by Sebastian Vater (sebastian.vater@hotmail.com). Contact information is also available, but I'm sure its false.
  • A search on Internet using the email address gives this page where someone has information about this email address being owner of another domain being used for scam: http://db.aa419.org/fakebanksview.php?key=75552
  • A search on the name leads to another page with warnings about several domains beeing fake: http://fraud.forumandco.com/t11304-wgb-expresscom-this-is-scam-this-is-fraud-don-t-send-money
  • Looking up the internet address of the web server the fake company uses reveals that the server is located in Malaysia at a web hosting company.


After discovering this, I wrote back to seller telling him I had not heard about WXC Express before, and asked him if he had any experience with them, and also that I believed that it might be cheaper for me to travel and fetch the car myself, and therefore asked where he was located.

He responded that he had used the company before (for me this confirms the seller is part of the scam), again described how easy it was to use the company. He also at the end added the address if I wanted to come myself. It's a real address in York, but I'm sure he is not there so I will not share here since most likely innocent people live there. I will not travel and have a look - I'm sure I will not find anyone to meet there - or worse, get mugged.

I ended it by writing back that I had discovered that the transport company was fake, and that he must have known. If I get some creative explanation back I'll share here smile

I wish I could report this someplace - and have the scammers arrested. But honestly I'm convinced police does not have enough resources for this - and it's not possible to even know what country the scammers are in.

Ohh well... at least I did not loose any money. Back to surfing Morgan adverts...

Kind regards,
Frode

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Excellent detective work! thumbs
And good on you for posting the warnings.
Lets hope no-one gets fleeced by this lot.

Cheers,


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If the seller claims to be in York I wonder if trading standards might be interested? They were very helpful when my former wifes' mother was being scammed.

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Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Excellent detective work! thumbs
And good on you for posting the warnings.
Lets hope no-one gets fleeced by this lot.

Cheers,


Agreed Graham, and +1 thumbs to Frode for sharing. What a sad world we live in ooo


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