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Hi All, Finding my way round my newly aquired Morgan (1997 4/4 1800cc). The users manual mentions the One shot Oiler and the need to use it quite frequently. I have had a look for it in the footwell above the clutch pedal but cannot see anything. Where exactly is it and what does it look like. Regards Huddie
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It may have been removed (sometimes is) - depending on the king pin set-up.
Mine does not have anyway of activating the one shot oiler, but I understand some have a foot operated "pump" near the cluch pedal....
Look at your front suspension. Is there a "brake" pipe like pip going to the top of the king pin? If so this will go back to a manifold on the bulkhead (if like mine).
The manifold wil be feed by an oil line from the engine block.
Richard 1976 4/4 4 Seater
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There should be a triple brass conection on the bulkhead. One plastic tube in from foot part and one leading out each side to the front brakes . If it has only two ( one each side ) it's been modified . You then need a grease gun with a flexi end for top ups on your back into the front suspension . As I said welcome to the dirty hand club.
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Huddie, it hides on the bulkhead in the centre line of the car behind the heater.
It looks a bit like a push tap.
JohnV6 2022 CX Plus Four 2025 MG ZS EV aka Trigger
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Hi Huddie and welcome,
In the opinion of most the oiler is not well regarded, including the main dealer where i brought my +8, he advised against it and regular greasing.
The pillar suspension system is packed with grease and the stub axles slide up and down on bronze bushes, the pillar restrained by the top and bottom springs. If you use the oiler on a car with it then it will thin and wash the grease away and wear rate on the pillar and brass bushes will reduce. (Especially with hot engine oil) Also if over used there is risk of oil seepage getting on brakes.
A lot of MOG owners disconnect the oiler and then use a grease gun at the top and bottom of the pillars (remember to clean away an excess grease after doing so around the stub axle after greasing). This is tedious and messy, requiring front wheel removal and jacking up the car. If you look in Miscellany there is a remote grease nipple kit available. You replace the top and bottom nipples with the ones supplied and from these run pipes (supplied) to a metal block you fix on the inside wing, this has grease nipples. Now greasing is easy, open bonnet one side and pump grease check now and then for grease coming from stub axle, clean off and do other side. Much easier, I fitted this before it was available as a kit and is well worth the cost, and not so dirty hands.
Enjoy your MOG
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Hi all, Many thanks for the help. Found it exactly where John+4 said. AJ advises against its use but I guess I will try it once just for the hell of it. Also the old owners hand book says do it with the engine cold I assume this might eleviate the grease being melted by hot oil !!. Also to be sure I assume one does it after start up, oil pressure being needed to make the concept work? Regards Huddie. ps I will add some pics of my car when I sus out how to do it.
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I u sed it every 500 miles on my 4/4. Not using it is not recommended unless you fit grease nipples.
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I have never used the one shot oiler, as my supplying dealer (Lifes) said don't bother its better to use grease . Engine oil isn't the best lubricant for this application.
In fact it was only recently that I found the button, as its partly hidden behind the radio
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AJ advises against its use but I guess I will try it once just for the hell of it. Also the old owners hand book says do it with the engine cold I assume this might eleviate the grease being melted by hot oil !!. Also to be sure I assume one does it after start up, oil pressure being needed to make the concept work?
Hi, I am just passing on what I have been told by the dealer and several other people, I meant do not do when engine hot. Whenever you do use the oiler the oil will thin the grease and affect it. Hence why most fit top nipples instead and then grease the pillar from top and bottom. Have fun!
Adrian
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