|
2 members (Image, JMcL),
230
guests, and
44
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Wales
by Joske Vermeule, September 1
|
|
|
|
|
Forums39
Topics49,904
Posts838,083
Members9,635
| |
Most Online1,063 Jun 14th, 2026
|
|
|
There are no members with birthdays on this day. |
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 142
L - Learner Plates On
|
L - Learner Plates On
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 142 |
I'd say the new Subaru BRZ / Scion FRS or what y'all would call the Toyota GT86 fits his criteria perfectly.
1960 Morgan +4 4 seater 1997 Nissan 240sx S14 2011 Nissan 370Z 2009 Triumph Street Triple
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 4,896
Drive on the Wild Side Part of the Furniture
|
Drive on the Wild Side Part of the Furniture
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 4,896 |
+1
I think Top Gear has just turned into a Glossy Magazine on TV , with yob journalists as presenters who get off in expensive sports cars that very few people can afford. All done in bad taste and with little factual information.
Adrian
Buggered Off, to a modern none leaky car, heart's still ticking
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,564
NGUNS!! Part of the Furniture
|
NGUNS!! Part of the Furniture
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,564 |
I think you're all off the mark. I really think if you got through to the 'real' JC you would find him a petrol head like the rest of us who would be happy to sit and talk cars for days. Yes opinionated and yes a bit right wing (car wise) but in reality a complete car nut. ok, so now you think I've gone mad  but I base this on his very original articles that he wrote in Performance car a long long time ago. A time where he learnt writing a standard article on a few interesting cars made him very much like the rest of his peers. A time when he also realised that stating a dislike in a funny manner (and he was funny) generated a reaction and he began to get known. He has honed this skill so 'well' that I admire his ability. His comments and barbed statements are so so focused that he knows exactly who he's offending and more importantly, far more importantly, who he's dragging on side. Insult the Mexicans? Who cares, they don't buy much of his work anyway, but the majority who do will find it amusing at least. Slag off a Morgan? Close knit community maybe, but a small one at that. The rest of the petrol heads, most of whom have absolutely have no affinity for our cars, will not take offence and think wow he's outspoken, cool innit. wreck a Marina? How many Marina lovers/owners? The only time he came close to the mark was when he ripped the vevtra apart but again I think he was quite calculated as even the majority of Vectra drivers would be company bods who knew it was monotonous and didn't have a passion for what was a company car. His demographic is young average petrol heads with a limited spend budget. Praise and parade the unobtanium to get them salivating, Slag the odd one off, you won't upset them and keep them worshiping at the altar of JC. A clever man, a real petrol head but driven to promote himself. A motoring politician of the highest order. I wonder how close I am with my analysis?  PS I really do think, as evidenced by this latest article above, he would love (does love?) Morgan for what they really are. And he understands more than most that some cars are more than metal 
Cheers
BtG
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 11,535 Likes: 321
Smile, it confuses them Member of the Inner Circle
|
Smile, it confuses them Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 11,535 Likes: 321 |
I agree with most of what you say Boshly.
Picking on minorities, a bit of cheap sound byte in the interest of ratings, no depth to the comments.
How much is the script/direction and how much is his personal view would be my question.
I think a V6 Roadster does match his description. I would prefer he did not gain access to one personally !
Everyone loves a Morgan. Even me, unless it's broken again.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 477
Learner Plates Off!
|
Learner Plates Off!
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 477 |
I agree with Boshly and let's not forget that Hammond and his father are Morgan fans. It would be against Top Gear 'rules' for them all to publicly agree about Morgans. May keeps pretty quiet, so I suspect he has a sneaking regard for the marque too.
Dave
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,444 Likes: 9
Has a lot to Say!
|
Has a lot to Say!
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,444 Likes: 9 |
I agree with Boshly and let's not forget that Hammond and his father are Morgan fans. It would be against Top Gear 'rules' for them all to publicly agree about Morgans. May keeps pretty quiet, so I suspect he has a sneaking regard for the marque too. James May likes and appreciates Morgans (having been converted by Hammond). May is an excellent journalist and this is a very good piece on the Morgan Roadster - http://www.topgear.com/uk/james-may/james-may-morgans-2005-04-01
David 2020 Roadster 3.7 Dove Grey.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,646
Needs to Get Out More!
|
OP
Needs to Get Out More!
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,646 |
My original post was not intended as a blast against Top Gear or any of it's presenters, it was just that the gist of Clarkson's Sunday Times article struck a chord with me; his definitions of what makes a good sports car sounded like a good description of my own pride and joy.
As far as TG goes, by and large I'm with Boshly. I get that much of it is tongue in cheek, and should be taken as such, and there's usually something in the show that makes me laugh. As Hammond is the Malvernite, and James May a closet Morgan fan, it falls to Clarkson to be the Mog hater. The same dynamic holds true for 911's.
Giles. Mogless in Paris.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 7,435 Likes: 122
Talk Morgan Guru
|
Talk Morgan Guru
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 7,435 Likes: 122 |
I agree,
A Mog is a Mog and meets exactly the expectations and the profile JC is describing. And TopGear is TopGear - if also perhaps during the years a little bit predictable it is very funny entertaining.
'14 4/4 graphite grey
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 5,549 Likes: 67
Charter Member
|
Charter Member
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 5,549 Likes: 67 |
Boshly rocks!!! In a concise way he described exactly what TG is all about. Crikey, even my wife likes him, JC that is ( she doesn't know Boshly ) The world would be a boring place if we all had to read Auto Car or What Car etc. What we really need is for Morgan to let TG have an Aero for an extended test, preferably in Italy, so we can really enjoy Sunday evenings.
Reg
Here for a good time not a long time!! Reg
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 5,013 Likes: 32
Charter Member
|
Charter Member
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 5,013 Likes: 32 |
I've spent quite a bit of time with JC and found him to be a thoroughly charming and decent chap. Whilst his columns agitate many - he's berated several cars I've owned - there's always a vague truth in what he writes. As a bloke, in the flesh, over lunch/drinks - he's great company.
+8 4.8
|
|
|
|
|