Talk Morgan Forums Morgan Sports Cars Morgan Three Wheeler & Super 3 This really bothers me...

Ok HJP. Point taken.

In my defence, I did drive the car on twisty and relatively bumpy C roads (...down in your neck of the woods, as it happens...great Morganeering countryside).
I didn't pussy foot around in the car, but I wasn't driving like I stole it either.

My 10 cents worth was really to try to keep a levelled view on these things. I am not trying to say that you, as a more experienced M3W driver you shouldn't pursue your own claims if you feel fit to do so....It was an account of my impression of the car when I drove that particular one.

I was trying to allay some of the fears...not upset people who are unhappy with their car.

Happy motoring...happy Morganeering !

OK NorthernMogman , I didn't intend to sound too stroppy!

Some excellent Morgan roads in your neck of the woods too , I've yet to visit my sister and family up there in the threewheeler ,but do intend to .

Happy motoring & Happy Morganeering to you too !
Hugh

I don't want to get into the merits of whether or not the factory should supply the "upgrade kit" free of charge but I can compare it to my fitting of a Suplex spring and damper kit to my near new Plus 4. Clearly some people do not have problems with the current set up and others do. Probably depends to some degree on many adjustable factors.

I would say you are in a good position to request (note I did not say "demand" as I do not think demanding particularly diplomatic)that the "upgrade kit" be supplied, when available, as part of the deal.

The fitting of this kit would seem to be relatively simple and would only require the wheel alignment to be checked and adjusted. I would suggest that any competent steering/suspension workshop in your area would be able to fit and adjust the kit in a very short time, probably for no more than the cost of an hour's labour.

Don't worry be happy and enjoy your new toy for what it is and enjoy tuning it and adding to it to make it your own personal pride and joy.

The whole bump steer issue is seriously overstated in my opinion.I live in New Mexico, have many pot holes, a dealer is Seattle, and no complaints.

Could it be smoother? perhaps. But it's not like the car has a mind of its own, or is dangerous.

Seems the modern automobile has been designed to neutralize all conditions such that drivers are void of any sensations. Sensory deprivation chambers.

The M3W is an open air, bugs in the teeth, I'm not wearing a helmet I'm just going to have more fun driving around and sitting in the sun and smiling than any other car or motorcycle.

The Internet has become a venue for people who like to complain anonymously, and few if any have solutions. Put down the keyboard, go for a ride, that's what Morgans are all about.

Not really bothered about the whole thing to be honest, maybe my car doesn't have the issue, maybe the roads here are better, maybe I don't drive hard enough or I'm just not a good enough driver to notice...
..what does interest me a little is that cars without the "upgrade" might have a lower residual value - or be harder to sell - but then I'm not planning to do that in the near future, I like it too much.

I know these are serious issues but I liked the days when this forum was all anticipation and discussions about what colour to choose. Now each visit to TM has me worrying about something new!

Couldn't agree more. Is it not worse still when you have people worrying about cars they do not even have yet?

Sigh, once again: Less bump steer or less bevel box whine does not mean it is then a vehicle that is "void of any sensations". Seriously.



And without bump steer, without whining bevel boxes, without a fractured exhaust, that somehow goes away?


It has also become a place for apologists to feel righteous and that noone can have any issues since they themselves have none.

Actually, what AQM finished by saying is spot on. It is becoming more and more obvious to me, that not all cars, for whatever reason, have the same problems, and even when they do, those problems vary in severity from very minor and 'livable with' to "OMG that is really dangerous", and those who do not have problems cannot understand the fuss being made by those who do have the issues.

I think that those who are lucky enough, either not to have the issues, or who don't notice or mind putting up with them should actually take note that, people who complain, some more vociferously than others, are not doing it to be trouble makers or trolls or flamers, they are complaining because they have a genuine problem. There is no-one else to complain to, the factory seems to have adopted a policy of silence on these matters, sadly, so what else can folk do but discuss them here?

Please accept that there is a problem, bevel boxes appear to be changed under warranty, so that's great, but the problems caused by the bad suspension geometry isn't great. This is a modern car, designed in the age of CAD programs and with the benefit of current suspension thinking, so why should customers whose cars do not handle, have to put up with the handling of a vintage car, even though we like the look, sound and feel of the rest of the package. I have a faint suspicion that even the prewar 2 and 3 speeders with sliding pillar front suspension, did not jump around the road at every bump and pothole - Martyn?

If the car is fun to drive as it is, and it is, just think how much more fun it could be when the suspension works properly.

To refer back to the original poster, Crowbar, in his place, I would try the car up the road before taking delivery, and if I didn't like the way it handled, and he knows now what to look for, I would most likely attempt to reject it, if this is not possible, then assurances from MMC through his dealer would have to be sought as to the rectification of the problems, under warranty and for free.

My feeling is that he will actually wonder what all the fuss is about, when he slides down into his seat and sets off on his first drive. I certainly hope so.

Well put Paul