Talk Morgan Forums Morgan Sports Cars Morgan Three Wheeler & Super 3 This really bothers me...

"This brave move was planned to present to the driver a mixture of raw driving experience and state of the art technology. Initially the brief was to deliver a vehicle adept to coping with twisty European topography, feeding back exciting responses to the driver.

Now that the Morgan 3 Wheeler is available in other continents it has been recognised that this steering characteristic may be too agile for certain markets."


So, it appears that you Yanks feel that the steering characteristics may be too agile for you, whilst us brave Brits have been more than happy to be launched into the face of oncoming traffic at every opportunity!

The fact that I have been complaining about the, I hesitate to even mention the dreaded word now, 'bumpsteer' for over 18 months, seems to have passed all at the factory by!

I wonder what sort of recall there will be?

Well let's hope it's as effective as the FatCat solution, I wonder if the £600 (plus fitting) adjustable shocks are included.

Btw welcome back Blake, look forward to further reports on the new improvements

Great shot. Stunning blues.

I'M BACK!!!!

sorry for the radio silence boys and girls but to be honest I become a bit saddened by how things had started to go in the aftermath of Kevin's post and felt like i needed some time off.

Was also bad timing as my car was just returned to me after 2 months in the shop. yes you read that correctly, 2 months. I don't want to go in to details right now but needless to say I haven't been in such a great mood as it pertained to morgan and my three wheeler.

Blake, Welcome back.

Lets hope we get the fix down here in OZ????

Lets face it Paul, you must have liked the Three Wheeler....you kept the first one for what, less than a year and then replaced it...with the same! Surely you did a decent long road test before you ordered the second one?

Welcome back to you Blake and to your wonderful photos !

Regards,

John

Glad you're back Blake, and I'm glad your car is sorted to your liking!

I'm curious, did your Dynamat application quiet down the bevel box even more? - it seems like it might.

Nice pics...I'll shoot some pics of my car in "beautiful" *cough* Galveston when I get a chance...but I suspect the view won't be quite as nice as yours!

Cheers,

GC

Jay, I didn't do a road test of either the first one or the second one, fool that I am, I trusted MMC to provide a car that worked, and believed that after a year of production they would have started sorting out the problems, instead they hadn't even acknowledged that there were problems.

It seems as if some of the old guard are being over protective again, and Jay, for some reason I get the feeling that you are just that. I thought we'd been there and done that, and it wasn't a good idea to repeat the performance?

Pretty naive way of buying cars imho Paul, especially as you had been so vehement about your original 3W before buying the second one.

On a separate subject I see the new lightweight Suzuki engined Caterham weighs 500kg, virtually the same as a M3W, seems to me that it's about 100kg too heavy as the Westfield FW400 weighed much less than that with a much heavier 1.8-litre engine in 1999. I would have thought some of their F1 technology would have rubbed off n'est-ce pas?

"Pretty naive way of buying cars imho Paul, especially as you had been so vehement about your original 3W before buying the second one."

Not at all, when I ordered my first one, there were no demonstrators at the dealers to try, and as I explained, with my present one, having owned one for a year, I couldn't see the point in driving an older demo, which was just like mine, and I rather hoped that some development work would have been undertaken in the meantime.

I have never said that the car isn't fun to drive and always a source of amusement and interest to others, which I like. If I sold this one, and I have no intention of doing so, I would buy another, but only after they had been fixed and the fix verified.

I love the car, which is why I am so eager that the steering/suspension geometry is redesigned and made to work. I just cannot believe that a company the size of MMC couldn't get it right before production, when one man bands, working in small sheds, seem to be able to.

I'm pleased that you brought up the question of weight Brian, as I hesitated to raise another issue. The FW400 weighing 400kgs was made using a carbon fibre tub, no space frame chassis and a K series engine, [just about the lightest car engine available] and even then, it was weighed by a magazine, with oil and fuel at around 430kgs. Motorcycle engined Caterhams, with a proper chassis, have been built down to around 380kgs, wet.

I once commented that MMC use the blacksmith school of car building, that is, to use oversized materials and fabrication, in the hope that it will be strong. In my uninformed opinion, our little car is 100kgs too heavy, and could weigh less by more intelligent use of materials and design, after all, if Caterham can do it, with a 4 wheeler, with glass screen & weather gear [incl. heater], why haven't Morgan?

Anyway, I'm sure that this will be another opportunity for the faithfull to defend the car and, indeed, Morgan themselves and so the discussion will roll on.