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by G Walker - 24/08/26 06:52 PM
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Well said, Mario. Just the kind of enthusiasm and common sense that is needed in this debate.
Roger South Wales 2003 4/4 (Meg) Connaught Green
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Some I agree with some I disagree with some I've no idea or am unsure. BUT written with passion, reason and fair opinion 
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One of the problems Morgan is facing is that its still extremely difficult to finance a new Morgan if you don't have the cash. We have been in recession for a number of years and we remain a long time from the good old days of increasing the mortgage to finance the new car. Based on this and in my opinion, Morgan have had a good run so far and they just need to fine a way through the lower sales they are experiencing. Plus they must fix the production quality problems quickly because warranty issues deplete profits, create bad customer relations and negative publicty.
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I've not had any issues with my Roadster Mario, although some on here have reported issues occasionally with their new cars. But I don't think Morgan should ever be singled out.... I've had massive problems with Astons and other cars costing significantly more. The thing that marks Morgan out is the quality of dealers who are FAR better than anything Lamborghini, Aston and Bentley can offer (and that's from first hand experience) As for CM being ousted/fired/stepping down.... I personally think its a huge shame and the PR badly handled. But I seem fairly unique in holding that view. It's clearly highly political both at MMC and on here. 
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Some I agree with some I disagree with some I've no idea or am unsure. BUT written with passion, reason and fair opinion +1 
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Statement from CM 31/10/2013I have been informed that Morgan has rejected my appeal and, as a result, I have been removed from Morgan Technologies It is incredibly disappointing news for my family and myself. We remain very grateful for the expressions of support received from Morgan fans, workers and the public since this process began. I have been dismissed on what I believe are very contentious grounds. Over the last 12 months, it was made increasingly clear that my philosophy to modernise Morgan did not fit with the philosophy of the current management. My view is that Morgan’s future cannot rely on its heritage alone. As such, I endeavoured to introduce our unique brand to new markets such as China; to take Morgan racing again; and to engage the passion of a new generation using social media, and by doing interesting things such as the Gumball Rally in a 3 Wheeler. My aim has been to give Morgan a bright future as an independent company. My record in business is something I look upon with pride – volumes doubled during my tenure and profits for the first six months of the year had increased dramatically to £1.2 million. I remain a major shareholder in the Morgan Motor Co and am concerned for its future. I will take time to consider my next actions and potentially explore other opportunities available to me. Where possible I will respond to media enquiries, but please contact my representation in the first instance: Will Powell- will@influenceassociates.com - Charles Morgan Read more: http://torqueabout.com/morgan-motor-company-view/#ixzz2jLTQZaEm
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So many of us had hoped that something could be worked out with Charles remaining on the board as the Morgan family figurehead. Charles's statement indicates that he wouldn't have been content with merely a figurehead role.
Given that Charles is 62 years old, I wonder if anyone in the next generation of the Morgan family is aspiring to MMC management. The Morgan family tree shows that there are at least 10 members of the fourth generation since HFS. Are any of these "kids" known to be Morgan car enthusiasts? Do any of them appear to be diligent managerial material?
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A somewhat obvious observation maybe but just reading through the posts, both here and on PH, this debacle has raised all the negatives - The Aero (personally I am not a fan and would buy alternative if I could afford it) but previously a design icon is now 'a mistake'.Dealers, previously thought (at least by me) to be loyal to MMC are now 'at war with the company'. Build quality, questions always there for sure but now a serious 'credibility issue', reliability once thought of as something almost mythical, you thought it might breakdown but in fact it rarely did, is now 'a reason not to purchase'. M3W, previously a somewhat surprising success story now has 'dangerous flaws'. I could go on but you get the picture, we are all in danger of talking this great British marque into the dust and the company are completely responsible for the current state of affairs - personally I don't want the 2015 Christmas special edition of Top Gear to be racing some new Chinese sports cars around a disused factory site in the Malvern Hills.
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Tuftie. I respect your opinion and your right to express it. I never understood the trad before my wife and I bought our Aero S2. I came to understand and enjoy the trads and the style of their owners.
I have been very fortunate and worked very hard to be able to afford broadly "anything" and I have even seen the challenges of the quality issues. If you look through my old posts I have even been quite critical in the past.
I bought the coupe because it is the most beguiling car I have ever experienced, is it perfect. I can't make a phone call. I can't put junk in it. I even had to lose weight to get in and out of it. It has a few things that need tweaking. It replaced the uber chariot CL600 W216 which is an amazing car by any standards. I had that choice. From every rational angle the Coupe is less car than the CL except one. It is a better tonic than Novartis will ever create. To those of you who love the trad and feel the same I respect you.
Maybe the aero clan and the trad clan have differences. Whatever.
Everyone loves a Morgan. Even me, unless it's broken again.
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Very well put Mike , I agree 100% .
Hugh
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