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#182875 20/02/14 10:27 AM
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As a result of Sukram's descriptive post 03/03/13 on this subject I decided that during my major restoration project I ought to check out the steering column as the bottom bearing has been "sloppy" for sometime.
I must admit that during this rebuild I have been unimpressed by the quality of some of the parts used by the Factory in 79 and the ball races used in the steering column are no exception - unsealed pressed steel cases, loose ball bearings and a castellated plastic nut at the bottom of the shaft.
Limited lubrication means after 35 years the entire kit is in a very poor state. Hopefully the later cars have an improved system but if not and the end of the steering column has some "play" in it you would be well advised to overhaul the entire piece of kit.
The JW overhaul pack looks like a good option but I feel if one has machining facilities Sukram's plan is superior and will last indefinitely. Ideally one would fit a ball race top and bottom but I doubt the column tube assembly is straight enough to gain a good alignment, so a self aligning bearing at the base is essential.
On the subject of poor components - MAZAC (Monkey Metal) for fuel caps, sidelights, windscreen wiper trims and plastic rear light nacelles, mild steel fixings - ugh! I hope current cars are better.
Despite moans I still regard the old 8 as one of the best.
Finally , if I can offer any help, tips or pics from my ongoing rebuild experiences please ask.

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Some things never change! I remember a similar problem with my plus 8s. Doing a service on my aero 8 I checked for play at the bottom of the column, lots of play found. Compared it to my new plus 8 and found just the same. Guess the aero's are all like that.



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I exchanged my steering column for a reconditioned one for the same reasons you describe above. The JW kit is not as bad as the instructions first appear when it comes to fitting.


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Yes, the JW kit is a good and easy option but still leaves the bottom bearing which gets ignored. Considering the angle of the universal joint below this bearing I would think the angular loads are greater at the bottom than the top. Although the top is normally the spot where the MOT will focus on.
All this is probably fairly trivial but nice to get a good engineering solution. Since I have the facilities/time and the web makes it easy to size up suitable bearings I'll soldier on with this project for the moment.
I'd like to know which car the Factory nicked these columns from as the bearings don't appear in any catalogue I have found.
Once I've worked out how to upload I'll post some pics.

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Have you compared with MGB columns of the period?
http://www.mgocspares.co.uk/acatalog/MGOC_SPARES_COLUMN__MGB__46.html


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Checked out the MGOC site and you're right these steering columns appear identical in structure. However, remembering early Minis I see that the MG columns are similar and still use nylon bushes top and bottom - but if it does the job why change.
So........I wonder why the bottom bearing in the Morgan steering has never been an issue, could it be the old adage - they are always like that!

Simon


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