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Some models of Harley are notorious for this problem (narrow front tyre), particularly if the road surface is slippery. Imagine having understeer on a two wheeler

Harleys are designed to understeer - long wheelbase, low centre of gravity, raked out forks - no chance of gripping and/or handling at speed or braking effectively.
Having raced non Harley bikes that are inclined to push the front I would say there is a difference between Harleys and performance or sporting bikes. The twain are unlikely to meet.
As touring or pootling bikes Harleys work.
For the M3W a generalism; pump up the front tyre pressure and wellie it. Generally sorts out the understeer.
If your bike is understeering then try dragging your inside knee harder.

Zacly - what I was trying to say, just better put!

I’ve seen videos of M3W’s making turns in parking lots where they have to do many back and forth moves to get the thing turned around. Is there a lack of appropriate turning angle in the front spindles?

If so, is it the stops on the spindles them selves or limited steering rack travel?

I know different cars have different turning circles, but obviously some are better than others in that respect.

I’m going to jump ahead and say if the M3W does not have enough steering angle built in for a tight turning radius, why can’t it be made for more steering angle?

Thanks guys for the great reports and information.

Blame massive 19" wheels that are very close to the exhaust pipes for the issue. Nothing we can do about it other than learn to do dough's (not a full doughnut, just half a one) on demand...

I thought the turning circle of my Honda Civic was appalling until I got the Morgan and I agree with R1NGA: not much can be done about it, short of total re-engineering.

I've not found the turning circle to be too much of a problem on the road but do keep missing parking spaces when I turn in - often takes 2 or 3 shunts to get parked........

Could be me but I find reversing into parking spaces easier

One video in particular, was a M3W going down terraced hill and the road was serpentined back and forth with 180° hairpin turns at each end of the terrace drop. When he made his left hand turn he could not just turn around the corner, he had to stop and back up the hill and then take off again.

This seemed to be very poor turning quality if you cannot negotiate a turn in the road without doing a back up to turn.

I’ve reviewed you the exhaust statement and it does make sense, it’s very tight. I looked at a picture of the ACE and they tucked the headers under the front shock and then kicked out around the foot wells for a much tighter huge of the body.

I would place the mechanicals of the vehicle and turning sharp enough to make tight street turns ahead of the header design. If you have taken a look at some of the custom cycles being built out there you can see a lot of ingenuity in design to fit in tight spaces.

As a somewhat crude example of tight bends in exhaust, here are a few shots of the header pipes I’ve put together on my boardtrack bike project, which needs to be finished and sold prior to a M3W commitment.











In this picture you can see the flexible heat riser tubing that you can buy at the Auto Parts Store. This happened to be 2”, the smallest they sell. You can see how well you can bend it to conform to your needs. Then once you have what you like, just cut and start welding tubing to match. It’s very time consuming, but well worth the effort in the end.



Sorry for the rambling and many pictures, but when I get started, hard to stop…

Quality!